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Title: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: iDesignGroup on February 12, 2013, 06:02:29 pm
Is there a list of new features/improvements somewhere?

Do we have a timeline for release?

Thanks!
Brian
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Gaieus on February 12, 2013, 06:22:20 pm
There's never a definite list (as they may not implement something and do not want to raise expectations) and also no definite time-line.

Until something is more or less certain, that is. Sure we had some insights of 3.0 already during Autumn.
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: iDesignGroup on February 13, 2013, 01:53:29 am
Thanks.. I was hoping staff would tip their hand for us. I just purchased the license for Pro today, and I am looking forward to:
1) Support for Multiple GPU's
2) Quicker Forest Creation (multiple instances)
3) Continually Improved Render Quality

Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Gaieus on February 13, 2013, 08:00:47 am
Multiple instances is already possible.  Hold the Shift key to insert (I think) 10 instances at a time then you can copy these then copy all again thus exponentially place more and more. You can later randomize these instances both in size, rotation and scattering.

Head to the FAQ section (http://lumion3d.com/forum/f-a-q/) and see those tips and tricks and shortcuts topics there
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Arthur on February 13, 2013, 08:45:21 am
Lumion 3.1 is generally a maintenance release. Some features but mainly GUI improvements, tweaks and performance optimizations.

It is scheduled for Q1.
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: SEVERINO on February 13, 2013, 09:57:38 am
Lumion 3.1 is generally a maintenance release. Some features but mainly GUI improvements, tweaks and performance optimizations.

It is scheduled for Q1.
Hello Arthur, have sown the discouragement and anxiety in my head.

I was hoping to have again the usefulness of shear planes in the new 3.1. According Remko, this topic would be replenished again more quietly, since the version of Lumion 3 had to leave.
For our work, dynamic clip planes are a great option to explain to our customers what lurks in a model.

Honestly I am very disappointed with this item, we back like crabs. I hope you reconsider the issue for 3.1, it would not be something new, but rather restore something that we already had.

Remko, please make effort and surprise us with the restoration of the cutting planes, I'm sure you can.

It is scheduled for Q1.When is this????????????


Best regards,
Severino
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Arthur on February 13, 2013, 10:16:50 am
It is scheduled for Q1.When is this????????????
Quarter 1, 2013
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Gaieus on February 13, 2013, 10:50:28 am
Quarter 1, 2013

I.e. before the end of March. A month and a half lest (max)
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: SEVERINO on February 13, 2013, 11:38:44 am
Quarter 1, 2013

Hello Arthur
And cutting planes, which is what interests me,
Do not tell me anything?

Have a nice day

Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Morten on February 13, 2013, 12:28:59 pm
Hi SEVERINO, I have asked Remko about the Clip plane function but he has not replied yet, so I guess they're in a meeting at the moment.
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: SEVERINO on February 13, 2013, 12:42:48 pm
Hi SEVERINO, I have asked Remko about the Clip plane function but he has not replied yet, so I guess they're in a meeting at the moment.

Thanks Morten,
Tell me when you answer Remko.

Best regards,
Severino
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Remko on February 13, 2013, 01:12:33 pm
Thanks Morten,
Tell me when you answer Remko.

Best regards,
Severino


We're working on clip planes. The reason it's not in 3.x is a bug and we need to find the cause and fix this bug before we have it up and running again. =
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: iDesignGroup on February 13, 2013, 01:59:28 pm
How far off is multiple GPU's? This would make a HUGE difference in render times.
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Morten on February 13, 2013, 02:18:31 pm
How far off is multiple GPU's? This would make a HUGE difference in render times.

The developers have tried to optimise Lumion for multiple-GPU setup in the past but for some reason it didn't yield any noticeable improvement in render times. They suspect DirectX 9 might be to blame.

I personally think they should first target performance/render time optimisations in Lumion that would benefit more users.

An example of such optimisation potential is the terrain which (even when 100% flat) still consists of 1 million 3D points when you render it. And if the sun shadows are active, it's double that.
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: iDesignGroup on February 13, 2013, 02:28:39 pm
Thanks, Morten. I really think that most professionals would spend $400-$500 to double there render times. I also want to mention that it would be nice if those in development did not merely aim for a dual card solution, but that they would leverage the processors of all the cards in a computer system.

Please comment if multiple GPU's / faster render times is important to you.

Thanks, Brian
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Morten on February 13, 2013, 02:57:58 pm
Thanks, Morten. I really think that most professionals would spend $400-$500 to double there render times.
I'm guessing you mean to halve their render times?

In any case, having 2 or more GPUs at your disposal will not necessarily improve performance by a factor of 2 (or more) in 3D applications. Last time I checked most CAD applications did not benefit from multi-GPU setups (although this may have changed since then).

Performance will ultimately depend on how each application/game has been programmed to take advantage of multiple GPUs. Here's an example from a well-known 3D benchmark application which does take advantage of that:

http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revimages/video/Nvidia_GTX_690/Benchmarks/3DMarkVantage_Performance.PNG (http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revimages/video/Nvidia_GTX_690/Benchmarks/3DMarkVantage_Performance.PNG)

Remko actually followed the official guidelines for implementing multi-GPU support when they developed Lumion, but for some reason performance with a multi-GPU setup is not significantly better.
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: iDesignGroup on February 13, 2013, 03:09:32 pm
Thanks, Morten! I meant to say double the speed of our render times!  :-D

You are right... Some renderers out there right now are getting linear scaling... Drop another card in = 1/2 the render time. Drop 3 additional cards in, you are now rendering 3X faster.

I apologize for not knowing this - does Lumion take advantage of a GTX 690, dual chip card?

Thanks,
Brian
Title: Re: What can we expect in Lumion 3.1?
Post by: Morten on February 13, 2013, 03:12:20 pm
I apologize for not knowing this - does Lumion take advantage of a GTX 690, dual chip card?

Well, it will render just fine, but don't expect significantly faster render times (this goes for any multi-GPU setup in Lumion, whether it's a dual-GPU card or several cards in SLI configuration).

Remko knows more about this topic though, so I better stop here :)