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Title: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on August 23, 2012, 01:09:50 am
The Last of US
Looking for the new games entry and i saw this one, really cool, amazing light, very realistic...
so what about Lumion??is closer to reach this in the next update ??? :P

The Last of Us - Walkthrough Part 1 HD Gameplay SONY exclusive 2012 E3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbNmmK9Bhzw#ws)
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Aaron on August 23, 2012, 03:01:53 am
Yes, the next update for Lumion will allow you to create exactly this. Just don't forget to hire yourself a staff of 40+ talented modelers, texture-artists, shader coders to get even remotely started, then throw a couple of millions their way and you're off for a very promising future. Shouldn't take you more then the odd couple of years to get your 1st demo out ;-)
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on August 23, 2012, 09:33:46 am
Yes, the next update for Lumion will allow you to create exactly this. Just don't forget to hire yourself a staff of 40+ talented modelers, texture-artists, shader coders to get even remotely started, then throw a couple of millions their way and you're off for a very promising future. Shouldn't take you more then the odd couple of years to get your 1st demo out ;-)

This means that Lumion doesn't meet the necessary criteria, both in staff team and engineers, then your wait is in vain for a new uprdate while some initial brand elements to this product feel and are very unrealistic starting from the camera & reflex, providing a reality as a old video-game.....etc... so this is the same bullshit the same people that only justify on this product and nothing more... there aren't news, not exist and there is no evidence, other than speculation that this product will have an update and where consist of points, there is  no one undertakes to say which are ....so the Last of Lumion still remain Inexistent
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Aaron on August 23, 2012, 09:44:56 am
Sure. Well said. Good text and all. Much effort?
Of course it was a load of crock. Not nearly as much as some individuals have the decency to spam around over here but hey, I'm pretty new to this. Gimme a mo and I'll catch up k?
Meanwhile, just on the side of things; Have you recently contemplated getting yourself a good punchingbag? They have those now days you know? Rumors have it they tend to help people
suffering from anger issues. Just a thought? Running also helps. Just be careful not to run into
any people with the same mindset. You might trigger a cosmic anomaly  :o
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on August 23, 2012, 09:56:24 am
Sure. Well said. Good text and all. Much effort?
Of course it was a load of crock. Not nearly as much as some individuals have the decency to spam around over here but hey, I'm pretty new to this. Gimme a mo and I'll catch up k?
Meanwhile, just on the side of things; Have you recently contemplated getting yourself a good punchingbag? They have those now days you know? Rumors have it they tend to help people
suffering from anger issues. Just a thought? Running also helps. Just be careful not to run into
any people with the same mindset. You might trigger a cosmic anomaly  :o

Biggest anomaly here is transparency, I hope that it will come to light, do not abuse with the game pleasure that Lumion give, cos it sucks, but being pleasure to give a professional product with a deserve price
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on August 23, 2012, 10:20:34 am
By the way Lumion is a bad engine game, Lumion performance compares with this game leaves very bad, so much effort for the staff not for the opinions coming thru the forum

The Last of Us - The Last of Us Trailer 1 Official Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSCpEZvIekk#ws)
Watch Dogs - Game Demo Video [UK] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcMRkyoHKeA#ws)
[E3 2012] Assassins Creed III - E3 Frontier Gameplay Demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni2R8Il3ZzU#ws)
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on August 23, 2012, 10:36:00 am
A Ubisoft effort for Lumion is necessary
Splinter Cell Blacklist - Extended walkthrough [UK] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zha1_v8g5KI#ws)
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Morten on August 23, 2012, 10:48:16 am
Biggest anomaly here is transparency, I hope that it will come to light

As you hopefully recall, I already explained why we can't (and won't) announce all 3.0 features prematurely. You will have to be patient like everyone else :)

We want to announce the v3.0 feature set as soon as we are 100% sure that all the features will be ready in time for 3.0.

The reason is that when you program new features, it is not always a straight line from A to B, so you can't always predict how long it's going to take.

We don't want people to base future purchases of Lumion on promises that may or may not be fulfilled, so we have to avoid announcing upcoming features that have not yet been implemented.

Another contributing factor is that we prefer to make major announcements in one go in order to maximise the impact (newsletter, press release, forum announcement etc). If we start to announce some of the v3.0 features in the forum, we will dilute the impact and the final press release etc might no longer be newsworthy.

In other words, please stay tuned until we are ready to officially announce 3.0.

We're not going to change this approach, regardless of how inconvenient it is for you.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Morten on August 23, 2012, 10:57:36 am
By the way Lumion is a bad engine game, Lumion performance compares with this game leaves very bad, so much effort for the staff not for the opinions coming thru the forum
While we're always open to suggestions, I have to say that you're not being particularly constructive with your criticism :) Saying that a product is 'bad' is far too vague to make this feedback useful for those who make the product. Performance will depend on which graphics card you have and how complex a scene you're making. There's more information on performance and render time here:
http://lumion3d.com/forum/f-a-q/how-to-reduce-render-times-in-lumion/ (http://lumion3d.com/forum/f-a-q/how-to-reduce-render-times-in-lumion/)

If you mean 'bad' in terms of graphical fidelity/realism, I would recommend that you don't waste your energy on telling us how 'bad' Lumion is. Your time and effort is probably better spent on learning to use UDK or CryEngine if you're looking for the ultimate solution for real-time graphics.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on August 23, 2012, 11:01:34 am
As you hopefully recall, I already explained why we can't (and won't) announce all 3.0 features prematurely. You will have to be patient like everyone else :)

We're not going to change this approach, regardless of how inconvenient it is for you.
See it, the great politician is coming again ::) im not impatient, but the choose between Lumen vs Lumion is something that makes me think, tending what new feature will bring the latest update of Lumion. till than im watching this 8)
Far Cry 3 - Stranded Trailer [UK] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6gnOVJsCsM#ws)
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on August 23, 2012, 11:07:55 am
While we're always open to suggestions, I have to say that you're not being particularly constructive with your criticism :) Saying that a product is 'bad' is far too vague to make this feedback useful for those who make the product. Performance will depend on which graphics card you have and how complex a scene you're making. There's more information on performance and render time here:
http://lumion3d.com/forum/f-a-q/how-to-reduce-render-times-in-lumion/ (http://lumion3d.com/forum/f-a-q/how-to-reduce-render-times-in-lumion/)

If you mean 'bad' in terms of graphical fidelity/realism, I would recommend that you don't waste your energy on telling us how 'bad' Lumion is. Your time and effort is probably better spent on learning to use UDK or CryEngine if you're looking for the ultimate solution for real-time graphics.
When I say bad is my opinion to judge it, there are to many thing that the worlds bad is coming out.... is bad for the prize...bad for the reality...bad for others possibility, a PC dedicated only to Lumion Game, not for a professional engineer or architect, i dont even care of UDK or Cryengine, the final product is what i want, so stop with justification
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Morten on August 23, 2012, 11:15:38 am
When I say bad is my opinion to judge it, there are to many thing that the worlds bad is coming out.... is bad for the prize...bad for the reality...bad for others possibility, a PC dedicated only to Lumion Game, not for a professional engineer or architect, i dont even care of UDK or Cryengine, the final product is what i want, so stop with justification

If Lumion is so bad in so many regards (price, performance, realism etc), you are wasting your time in this forum. It's clear that there is no way we will ever be able to make Lumion match your requirements, so I would advise you to use other software instead.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on August 23, 2012, 11:31:57 am
If Lumion is so bad in so many regards (price, performance, realism etc), you are wasting your time in this forum. It's clear that there is no way we will ever be able to make Lumion match your requirements, so I would advise you to use other software instead.
Great stuff here, this is how You do, getting rid off persons who are interested for a quality product to have the rights of information and the bad answers is that you dont know how to answer, please keep quiet, market is full of possibilities to choose, so the LAST OF LUMION  is STILL REMAIN A BAD BAD GAME,  with Moderators which seems Crawler and not professional.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Ferry on August 23, 2012, 11:40:37 am
Lumion is not a game. Lumion does not have a 20 million dollar budget. Lumion is our best effort with a small budget to get as far as possible for Architects. We don't expect to have AAA game profits.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Morten on August 23, 2012, 12:00:37 pm
Great stuff here, this is how You do, getting rid off persons who are interested for a quality product

Sorry, but it seems that you are mainly interested in telling everyone how bad Lumion is. As I wrote in the other thread, we already know that lumion isn't perfect and there is plenty of room for improvement. Otherwise, we would never have to release new updates.

to have the rights of information and the bad answers is that you dont know how to answer

We have an internal list of features that are being developed for Lumion 3, but we choose not to disclose it for the reasons that I have already provided above. You can disagree all you want but announcing upcoming features that are not yet fully implemented is a terrible business decision, as we'd risk lawsuits and compensation claims.

please keep quiet, market is full of possibilities to choose

Please read my earlier posts again. Judging by your negative feedback, it is clear that Lumion does not meet your expectations, and given the size of our team compared to major game developers, there is no way we can live up to your expectations, even in Lumion 3/4/5 etc. This is not likely to change, so to save you some time/energy, you should choose software that do live up to your expectations, instead of waiting for something that may or may not materialise in the future.

so the LAST OF LUMION  is STILL REMAIN A BAD BAD GAME

I'm pretty sure everyone heard you the first time around. We get it.

with Moderators which seems Crawler and not professional.

Thanks.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: arch_bd on August 23, 2012, 12:03:05 pm
Great stuff here, this is how You do, getting rid off persons who are interested for a quality product to have the rights of information and the bad answers is that you dont know how to answer, please keep quiet, market is full of possibilities to choose, so the LAST OF LUMION  is STILL REMAIN A BAD BAD GAME,  with Moderators which seems Crawler and not professional.
"Rome Wasn't Built in a Day" better you stop with these useless questions and requests, just try another way spend your time and give effort to your own. Lumion is really our best friend and has make the Revolution in Real-Time Rendering, giving us the Time to product our work so fast...Stunning Renders in Second, and HD Quality movies which no one hasn't done it before.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Goal043 on August 23, 2012, 12:13:06 pm
Comparing game-engines to Lumion |:(

Did you know a license for CryEngine 3 is $1.2 million? That's versus Lumions €2999,-.

Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Goughy01 on August 23, 2012, 08:47:03 pm
Lumion is a spectacular piece of software which is developing into a very rounded solution to many an Architect's challenge to deliver 3d visualisation in both still and animated formats in a very short time. I last felt this good about a piece of software was when I discovered Sketchup (version 2 then by @last software) and look where that went  :). Good luck to you guys developing Lumion. I think I speak for the majority in saying I'm sure release 3.0 will be worth waiting for. I'm personally hoping the reflection issues will be sorted out as much of my work involves interiors. Once that's done I'll be more than happy to part with my $2999.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Ferry on August 24, 2012, 09:09:43 am
We are trying really hard. Lets hope we succeed into something awesome.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: FabioHFernandes on August 24, 2012, 04:08:48 pm
In my opinion, they are two completely different situations...
In one hand we have Lumion... a stable tool, that accepts large scenes with lots polygons without crash, and it is totaly user friendly... this tool have some defects, like reflections we know, but its far from being a "bad" software... Lumion is a very new software, and we know that it haves a lot of space for improvements... and they are coming, just notice how the features has being improved in the upgrades, and you will see what i am talking about...
In the other hand, we have softwares that have being developed for many years now, powered by huge companys with million of dollars to spend... like UDK and Cryengine... we can´t compare those two situations in the same basis of criticism... it would be unfair... Lumion will grow up in quality and features, as long we support it, helping to develop the tool with racional analisys based in ponderation.
Just bare in mind, that Lumion is not Vray / Mental ray and you will be happy, like the rest of us... one day we will have reflections, turntables and exe files to run in our clients pcs... at least i hope so... just wait and we´ll see...  :)
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ramdy on August 31, 2012, 12:35:07 pm
We are trying really hard. Lets hope we succeed into something awesome.
And is any effort going to Quest3d?
(sorry for answering here but seems Act3d only pay attention to Lumion forum and Quest3d is abandoned)
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ali rahimi shahmirzadi on August 31, 2012, 09:36:17 pm
There is effort going to Quest3D if that is in favor of Lumion and other in-house use. We won't put any notable effort in development for public purposes.
And who are you to say that? Cause i don't see any Lumion Staff icon under your user name. So wondering who is saying these.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Arthur on September 02, 2012, 11:24:31 am
And is any effort going to Quest3d?
(sorry for answering here but seems Act3d only pay attention to Lumion forum and Quest3d is abandoned)
There is effort going to Quest3D if that is in favor of Lumion and other in-house use. We won't put any notable effort in development for public purposes.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Arthur on September 02, 2012, 11:25:03 am
And who are you to say that? Cause i don't see any Lumion Staff icon under your user name. So wondering who is saying these.
It was me using a different account accidentally.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ali rahimi shahmirzadi on September 02, 2012, 11:55:03 am
I see. Well we are mostly asking for several important bug fix not any specific stuff from lumion. However in terms of OO things are a bit more complicated.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ramdy on September 02, 2012, 07:22:29 pm
There is effort going to Quest3D if that is in favor of Lumion and other in-house use. We won't put any notable effort in development for public purposes.
If you think that is serious, taking in mind Quest3d5 was sold and purchased by its users few months ago. It is sad also, Quest3d users get only an answer when asking at Lumion forum.

Constructive suggestion: Would it cost so much having 1 person in Act3d team dedicated to mantain (and supporting through forum) Quest3d? IMO Quest3d has still a great community and, otherwise, Lumion users may think they will get similar support if Act3d start to think in a different product.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ali rahimi shahmirzadi on September 02, 2012, 07:52:54 pm
I am a Quest3D (Lumion developed with Quest3D, perhaps everybody know that) user since 2004 and this is how we are ending up. I would not put more comment on this issue cause as you can imagine it might get very nasty. But seriously this is not fair. And its not just me. I understand why act3d decided like this, but there should be few bytes of morality is cyber space too, or its not?
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on September 04, 2012, 09:24:44 pm
I'm watching around a bunch of fans who're affected by several observations or thoughts that I had for this kind of game product like Lumion. I respect all the ideas of every one but i don't understand what is this kind of judgment toward me.You're killing me with reputation, i don't even care this bullshit. The white is white and i don't call black. So Lumion Still is a Game without Futures, i don't even care to buy this joke, even i was skeptic,  now i decide not to buy it; some are selling licences cos are disappointed, some other are playing making stupids films cos this is all that Lumion can offer nothing more than a game, even in a game you have much more reality and options to change mode etc.This is a charade campaign with offers that are not worth any penny...even in Lumion 3..only some extra trees, cars and characters and the others main features....lets hope for a vain miracle.
take care and down same more reputations cos i see that moderators & some Porno users are dictators of free speech and thoughts.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: BABE™ on September 04, 2012, 09:56:08 pm

Hello 3dk............

 I Would love to see some graphics , ............from the software your currently using ?



(http://www.trinity3d.com/media/evermotion/archexteriors_vol_3_for_cinema_4d/archexteriors_vol_3_for_cinema_4d_box_large.jpg)
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: 3dk on September 04, 2012, 10:19:15 pm
Who're you?? a porno fans? that avatar make me sick >:(
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ali rahimi shahmirzadi on September 05, 2012, 10:15:45 pm
One thing which i had find out about act3d guys after all of these years is that they are very liberal with forum comments which is cool. Technically its possible to have the same quality as these AAA games with lumion or any other D3D9 app, but that's a whole different story and policy.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Arthur on September 05, 2012, 11:26:46 pm
now i decide not to buy it;
Good decision! Glad to hear that. You should spend your time and money on something that doesn´t make you sad and angry.

By the way: The Lumion staff can't give positive or negative reputation, only licensed members.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Remko on September 06, 2012, 10:26:27 am
Good decision! Glad to hear that. You should spend your time and money on something that doesn´t make you sad and angry.

By the way: The Lumion staff can't give positive or negative reputation, only licensed members.

The reputation system is designed as a system between between users. It's a feature we implemented to improve the quality of the forum and make it more pleasant to read. Since we implemented it I noticed that people are very relaxed and rarely give negative votes. If you do have a lot of negative votes you have reconsider the effects of your writings. Chances are you are preaching to an audience that sees no value in what you are saying.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Morten on September 06, 2012, 05:58:16 pm
Who're you?? a porno fans? that avatar make me sick >:(

Forum users are allowed to use any image they like for their avatar image, provided that the image isn't copyrighted by someone else, pornographic, abusive, racist etc.

In my judgement, the image is none of the above (it's very very time-consuming to determine if an image is copyrighted by someone else), so I currently see no reason for this customer to change their avatar image.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ramdy on September 07, 2012, 04:41:24 pm
There is effort going to Quest3D if that is in favor of Lumion and other in-house use. We won't put any notable effort in development for public purposes.
Since support at Quest3d forum is gone, Will you (Act3d), please, release a new version with at least the documentation finished?
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Arthur on September 07, 2012, 05:17:16 pm
Since support at Quest3d forum is gone, Will you (Act3d), please, release a new version with at least the documentation finished?

Yes, the new Lumion 3.0 release will be in November.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ramdy on September 08, 2012, 10:47:09 am
Since support at Quest3d forum is gone, Will you (Act3d), please, release a new version with at least the documentation finished?
Yes, the new Lumion 3.0 release will be in November.
And BMW is announcing new 3-series for this year.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ramdy on September 08, 2012, 10:56:49 am
There is effort going to Quest3D if that is in favor of Lumion and other in-house use. We won't put any notable effort in development for public purposes.
So why did you offered pre-order (since 2010) and sold final version few months ago? You know a technical product is nothing with incomplete documentation and without support  ??? There are ethical ways to do things, specially with a so tied community at Quest3d which helped so much to improve the engine. Now you give a kick and answer like this :S. Let me say it is not serious.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ali rahimi shahmirzadi on September 08, 2012, 11:10:10 am
I think parts of it is because of lumion itself. Seriously who can work with that Qframework in Q3D?
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Arthur on September 08, 2012, 11:54:44 am
Guys, this is the Lumion forum, not a Quest3D forum.

The last words about it here:

Developments in market and technology made us decide what we decided. For all kinds of reasons maintenance and development of Quest3D for public purposes became prohibitive. I know you guys are so happy with Quest3D that you even take the effort to ask for attention on the forum of a totally different product. But that doesn't change the way things are. We cannot spoil a solid company by keeping a -really- small number of active Quest3D users happy. Trust me: if we would have spent our time on Quest3D as you wished, there was no fantastic Quest3D version either and no forum hosted by Act-3D at all.

Unfortunally, I can't make it better for you.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: ramdy on September 08, 2012, 01:46:44 pm
*Mod edit

The Quest3D discussion on this forum has been finished.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: IP_jeanlo on September 08, 2012, 02:33:15 pm
Hello,

if I buy lumion 3.0 in October, is that I can take advantage of your offer to 699 €?
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: Arthur on September 08, 2012, 05:40:56 pm
Hello,

if I buy lumion 3.0 in October, is that I can take advantage of your offer to 699 €?

Yes. As you can see on the upgrade page the price will raise in november. You will have some time to see new functionality to make a good decision.
Title: Re: The Last of Lumion...
Post by: IP_jeanlo on September 08, 2012, 08:53:56 pm
ok

thank you arthur .... Indeed, this will allow me time to see lumion 3.0 and put money aside.

Thank you to all the team for your job .... lumion even if we do not yet know the new features