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Title: Price Exponential
Post by: lgriao on May 10, 2012, 09:27:43 pm
Each version of the lumion the price doubles, but the amount of resources is not proportionate to the value. Before putting the product value in the stars, it would be nice to add the tools that are missing, do not put airplane in the sky. I was very excited to buy Lumion, but after this nonsense, I quit, I'll try to Twinmotion.
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: RAD on May 10, 2012, 09:29:29 pm
have fun.
see you back here when you find out it can't do what Lumion can.
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Brian Hengelsberg on May 10, 2012, 09:31:17 pm
What version did he have?  The cost did not double...it is a completely different version set.  We will welcome him back whenever he returns...
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: RAD on May 10, 2012, 09:44:02 pm
I will be happy to welcome anyone back.
I will be curious to find out what the experience was over there.

Can someone link me to TwinMotions Galley of client examples?
i'm curious to see what is good there.
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: darbo on May 10, 2012, 09:56:46 pm
I will be happy to welcome anyone back.
I will be curious to find out what the experience was over there.

Can someone link me to TwinMotions Galley of client examples?
i'm curious to see what is good there.

Wow have things really changed! I remember looking at TwinMotion's initial release videos and was impressed by the rendering image quality while the Lumion 1 image quality seemed a little behind. Now? Wow! Lumion's render quality is insanely good and TwinMotion doesn't seem to have improved at all.

The upgrade price is a little unsettling to me too, but sorry, there's nothing out there like Lumion right now. Best of luck with the TwinMotion pricing. ;)
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: darbo on May 10, 2012, 10:11:35 pm
The TwinMotion web site looks pretty much identical to how it looked two years ago. It looks like they're not moving, which is ironic.  ;) The growing-pains problem we're experiencing here is that Lumion is being aggressively improved and enhanced at a breathtaking rate. Pretty awesome, on the whole, I think.
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: RAD on May 10, 2012, 10:14:13 pm
You go to the movies and watch what they want you to watch.
Or you learn how to make your own and watch what you want to watch.
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: cpercer on May 10, 2012, 10:27:55 pm
Each version of the lumion the price doubles, but the amount of resources is not proportionate to the value. Before putting the product value in the stars, it would be nice to add the tools that are missing, do not put airplane in the sky. I was very excited to buy Lumion, but after this nonsense, I quit, I'll try to Twinmotion.

I think you are confused.  The regular Lumion is the same price.  There is a new product in the lineup called Lumion Pro.  It adds many new features over Lumion and it's the same price as Twinmotion with many more features.  I tried Twinmotion and it failed horribly with even the most modest of my projects.
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: RAD on May 10, 2012, 10:30:24 pm
Cpercer knows what is up.   :)
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: cpercer on May 10, 2012, 10:39:10 pm
Cpercer knows what is up.   :)

+1 reputation CRhoades  :-D
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: darbo on May 10, 2012, 10:43:31 pm
+1 reputation CRhoades  :-D
Good idea! :D
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: RAD on May 10, 2012, 10:45:42 pm
Thanks.  I'd vote you both up 1.  But I can't because i already voted you both up a long time ago.
Thanks for bringing me back up.

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Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Robert A. Christman on May 11, 2012, 03:02:10 am
I also tried twinmotion. Was excited until all I got was crashes and horrible performance. Chose Lumion and never looked back. Good luck and please keep us posted to show us your work. As I mentioned on the other post I love the friendly competition.

Bob
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Michael Betke on May 11, 2012, 08:47:23 am
Twinmotion got something Lumion has not in my opinion: A good UI.

The brush based vegetation painting is worth gold and should be in Lumion from the start. Even some game-engine editors from 2004 have brush based vegetation painting. I would have saved a lot of time if I would be able to paint vegetation assets. It must be not so hard to code in and we all use lots of vegetation. Mostly. I hope for it in Lumion 3! Together with specular map support and other transparency than alphatest. :)
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Morten on May 11, 2012, 11:55:28 am
Together with specular map support

Lumion does support specular maps - or rather a combined specular/reflection map:
http://lumion3d.com/forum/general-discussion/small-features-that-would-make-a-big-difference-in-lumion-2/msg14554/#msg14554 (http://lumion3d.com/forum/general-discussion/small-features-that-would-make-a-big-difference-in-lumion-2/msg14554/#msg14554)
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Michael Betke on May 11, 2012, 12:02:30 pm
This is really nice. I wonder why noowhere is written that the Specularmap needs to be stored in Diffuse Alpha. Its so easy.

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There is no manual for Lumion.

The developers of Lumion (Ferry, Arthur and Remko) want Lumion to be so easy to use that a manual should not be necessary.
I guess with growing features this wont work good enough to enable your customers to squeeze out the optimimum out of Lumion on a long range. :)
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Morten on May 11, 2012, 12:12:16 pm
You're right, the workflow and user interface need to be overhauled even further, so that no function is hidden.

Lumion is in a constant state of flux, so the moment you start to write a manual, it will be outdated by the next update. Which reminds me that I need to update the Tips, Tricks and Shortcuts thread, so it matches the 2.2.1 feature set. I'm really looking forward to the day when Lumion is so easy to use that this thread will no longer be needed :)

Video tutorials would also help - I hope there will be time to add those soon!
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Arthur on May 11, 2012, 12:25:04 pm
Twinmotion got something Lumion has not in my opinion: A good UI.
:D
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Lars on May 11, 2012, 12:28:10 pm
+1 for a manual, I think as Lumion has grown up, a manual is a must.
Found out by accident the shortcut keys when in object edit mode (move, rotate, size, height), very usefull!
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Michael Betke on May 11, 2012, 12:32:24 pm
Lars let me know too. :)
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Ming Architect on May 11, 2012, 12:46:11 pm
You're right, the workflow and user interface need to be overhauled even further, so that no function is hidden.

Lumion is in a constant state of flux, so the moment you start to write a manual, it will be outdated by the next update. Which reminds me that I need to update the Tips, Tricks and Shortcuts thread, so it matches the 2.2.1 feature set. I'm really looking forward to the day when Lumion is so easy to use that this thread will no longer be needed :)

Video tutorials would also help - I hope there will be time to add those soon!

To get started, how about a quick reference card or screenshot summary?
http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=116693 (http://support.google.com/sketchup/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=116693)

Easy to maintain. And if Lumion UI really doing well, people won't do much manual request naturally  :D
Title: Re: Price Exponential
Post by: Lars on May 11, 2012, 12:47:16 pm
When working with objects move mouse over object point and hold down the following shortcut keys.
Move: M
Size: L
Height: H
Rotate: R
Rotate Pitch: P
Rotate Bank: B

Works very well. In combination with alt-copy you can quickly place multiple object and move/rotate them in one single flow. Great improvement. Don't know if that's only recently available in 2.2 as I upgraded from Lumion1 last week.