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Title: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: arch_bd on April 17, 2012, 02:26:16 pm
How will be the Lumion future?
Did the company has a strategic plan, how will this software place in the near future?
Where will be the further development concentration and additions to the software....
to be continued as Leader in Realtime Technology.
What other benefits will create that users always remain faithful to Lumion?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Morten on April 17, 2012, 04:13:26 pm
Hi arch_bd, the developers of Lumion will be announcing some fundamental changes in the not too distant future. Please stay tuned for more information.
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: thierry tutin on April 17, 2012, 04:45:47 pm
with Lumion we must always stay tuned
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: arch_bd on April 17, 2012, 05:01:39 pm
Hi arch_bd, the developers of Lumion will be announcing some fundamental changes in the not too distant future. Please stay tuned for more information.
Nice to hear from you Morten,
I'm always tuned with Lumion.......to be continued ;)
Best Regards
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Ecuadorian on April 17, 2012, 10:09:26 pm
some fundamental changes

Sounds like I'll have to wait before upgrading to Ultimate V 2.0... Otherwise I might be missing some new feature that will come in extra plugins or something like that.
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Michael Betke on April 18, 2012, 09:00:54 am
Quote
the developers of Lumion will be announcing some fundamental changes in the not too distant future.

Aquired by Autodesk....
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: RAD on April 18, 2012, 09:43:44 am
really?
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Michael Betke on April 18, 2012, 09:55:35 am
lol no (I hope)! It was just some kind of joke because Autodesk buys a lot of companies out.
But in my experience if people annouce something big or fundamental changes they either get bought out by another company or change a lot in their product philosophy. Mostly it gets more expensive for their customers.

If I'm about to stick a bit in the dark I only could think of Lumion3 as a technology upgrade with tweaks and enhancements in existing features or skip the yearly upgrade cycle. We got indoor and we got outdoor things now. Mostly its up to the artist doing good assets for the tool.
The tool itself could improve only with changes in UI, and improvements on existing stuff like better terrain handling, better reflections and so on.  
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: arch_bd on April 18, 2012, 10:13:04 am
LOL
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Ecuadorian on April 18, 2012, 04:27:56 pm
It would be a disaster if they followed the example of Autodesk... That would mean making minor changes every year, changing the file format so it becomes incompatible, and charging for the "upgrade".
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Michael Betke on April 18, 2012, 04:31:36 pm
I installed max2013 two hours back and now wonder why im on subscription....
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Ecuadorian on April 18, 2012, 04:53:59 pm
Did you go to see "TRON: Legacy"?

When someone asked what big changes they had made to the software, considering the price they charge to students and schools, they answered: "This year we put a '12' in the box".
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: David William Edwards on April 18, 2012, 07:48:41 pm
Acquired by Google...
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: thierry tutin on April 18, 2012, 09:03:20 pm
The Future of Lumion is maybe like this

Architecture Reel 2012 (http://vimeo.com/38772394)

Automotive Reel 2012 (http://vimeo.com/38773411)
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: arch_bd on April 18, 2012, 10:24:59 pm
DO NOT FORGET THIS : 3d Rendering Movies in Minutes
Key of success is captured, what makes THIS SOFT LOOKING TO SUCCESS
is Facility, Pleasure and of course don't forget TIME
Just tuned with Lumion..........fundamental changes are coming......to be continued..... Nothing Aquired by Others just Act-3D, B.V ;)
best regards
What is Lumion? Architectural visualization software at its finest! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7fF1Z9vPB4#ws)
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: RAD on April 18, 2012, 10:28:28 pm
How about PixelMustDie's take.

Don't hate me for sharing your work.  It is just so amazing everyone should see it.
I can never do this kind of work so I just have to respect and admire.
Superstar!
Plus there is Lumion in this piece.
https://vimeo.com/40078688
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: arch_bd on April 18, 2012, 11:01:19 pm
Amazing...
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Gga_Mars on April 19, 2012, 12:01:48 pm
yeahhhh :o completely crazy !!!
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Ferry on April 20, 2012, 11:31:59 am
Don't worry about the changes. We did not get bought or anything like that.

We will re-position the current product line with as a main change stop selling Lumion Basic and introduce a new Lumion normal. We have some mayor new features we created and are now discussing how to place those products. The beta group we created is a bit our think tank to help us with this difficult task.
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: arch_bd on April 20, 2012, 12:58:43 pm
THANKS LUMION....
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Ming Architect on April 21, 2012, 11:32:24 am
http://youtu.be/ioP0CVRJvUI (http://youtu.be/ioP0CVRJvUI)

Showcase is a joke when compared to Lumion, but I captured an interesting idea on this video at 3:50

My opinion, interesting if we can give time for lumion to render high quality for shots without worry about real-time, kinda like bunkspeed/i-Ray/shaderlight/V-ray RT (kinda like quality bump of real-time rendering engine a lot, which would normally slow the system). Now there's no reason why architect won't adopted Lumion, it's real cost-saving for high-quality rendering service shots or using as highlight shots in movies. And let's see when incredible thing would happened when it in Ronan bekerman/byzantium hand.

Lumion is great, leveraging MCAD presentation technology would be way ahead of AEC industry real-time rendering niche. to That's become real future and eliminate traditional rendering. ;)
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Ferry on April 21, 2012, 11:57:49 am
What we will first try is to get closer to those render techniques is adding more advanced render pipeline options that are still real time. We will see how far we can get with that first.
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Ecuadorian on April 21, 2012, 06:53:49 pm
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason why your heroic duty to humanity is: Don't get bought by Autodesk.

Just imagine: "Autodesk Lumion LT 2014 - Inventor Edition: Now more confusing than ever, but still doing the exact same thing as last year's version."
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Ming Architect on April 21, 2012, 06:56:40 pm
I agreed, Lumion should do what they good at and push it to the top. And find a lot of many great unique partners.
That's how Spaceclaim, SketchUp, Luxion Keyshot, Luxology withstand with big company.

Especially Spaceclaim. They try to start new market instead of competition:
http://youtu.be/dpnn2caOAgQ (http://youtu.be/dpnn2caOAgQ)

And see how this page doing with bold statement of 'In minutes'. Wiseman steal!
http://www.keyshot.com/how-it-works/ (http://www.keyshot.com/how-it-works/)

Also, see how Luxology is going into MCAD. That's crazy HUGE, when they get exposure to million Solidworks users with their photoview360. That's life changing. Also, they are Siemens business partner now:
http://www.luxology.com/store/CAD_Loaders_for_modo/index.aspx (http://www.luxology.com/store/CAD_Loaders_for_modo/index.aspx)

This kind of plugin would also push Lumion into more than Archviz and also become designer toolset sometime in the future:
http://www.allegorithmic.com/getstarted (http://www.allegorithmic.com/getstarted)
http://www.allegorithmic.com/products/stt/overview (http://www.allegorithmic.com/products/stt/overview)

And why not allied with product connect or formfonts, and instantly linked data with the design, and others who allied with SketchUp:
http://www.igloostudios.com/ (http://www.igloostudios.com/)
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=e4c5f9469b0b38abb7dc65d7950bd55b&ct=hpr2 (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=e4c5f9469b0b38abb7dc65d7950bd55b&ct=hpr2)

Formfonts.com also sure have real big access to architects, and their asset may not that expensive to partner with, and I see they are sketchup veterans who are reliable people from the start years ago. Their member subscription whan access to more than 10,000 high-quality model is real bargain.

That's how I see Lumion position in the future. Concentrate and eating from low-mid ground, which expert can squeeze a lot from it by going Quest3D. It's SketchUp for Archviz. I'm not saying stop working for expert level, but I see a lot user opportunities in architects and firms who mainly use SketchUp and a lot normal people who are SketchUp enthusiast, if Lumion give focused integration to it. Revit is opportunity, but ADSK may not like what Lumion do much because their money is also rendering on cloud ervice. Dont' forget to monitor Bonzai3d/Formz 7 because the tech is so interesting even user base is quite small.
http://youtu.be/eL0FS9BjOCk (http://youtu.be/eL0FS9BjOCk)

Imagine one can linked quickstart model from SketchUp or Revit and design the look/furniture placement/materials with comprehensive ready-made material catalog, which is so easy to adjust. And can save design options,views as a catalog for design decision (like Sketchup page tab with batch rendering plugin to a folder/PDF).

That's would become the same top MCAD level easiness.
One day  :-D

PS: I've spend sometime to research in MCAD techs, seem like autodesk is stay in the mid-range in term of tech advancements. ADSK just copy and bought the feature that successfully integrated in high end CAD like Catia, Siemens NX. If you want to see how ADSK can bring to AEC in next 3-4 years, you can see it in current MCAD field. It astonishing to know that AEC is almost monopoly by ADSK then they just put a pile of old MCAD tech to AEC later. In fact, all product have the same root, ADSK maximize profit by breaking them to countless product. But that's also the reason Lumion future, if planned well, can be bright too ;)

What I see is the Future of Revit is lie in Autodesk inventor. Autodesk Inventor is flagship in parametric modeling, but just mid-range tech advancement when compared the whlole industry. Architecture is moving to building customization and fabrication, it's happening.
http://youtu.be/rkNxYvyQ7VE (http://youtu.be/rkNxYvyQ7VE)

There're billions of people that will have 3D as a part of life in the future. 3D will become everywhere, like what 2D is today. Especially, 3D printing and DIY fab would be in every home. It's the real big market in decade to come, which Dassault/Siemens start pushing hard now (but their idea of trying to lock-in customer files in cloud is also years ahead to make it reasonable).
http://youtu.be/aqpFyKoJdzE (http://youtu.be/aqpFyKoJdzE)

Hope my idea help ;)
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: newman on April 22, 2012, 03:27:25 pm
In half glass of Lumion add a third of City Circus and some drops of good stile... and cup of black coffee, please! 
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Aaron on April 23, 2012, 12:58:22 am
Enodo DemoReel 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EySdWbR4qcg#ws)
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: Ming Architect on April 26, 2012, 10:12:23 pm
SketchUp just bought from Google by Trimble, a not so small company in AEC industry.
http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2012/04/new-home-for-sketchup.html (http://sketchupdate.blogspot.com/2012/04/new-home-for-sketchup.html)

Trimble is the owner of Tekla and these companies:
http://ww2.trimble.com/corporate/about_companies.aspx (http://ww2.trimble.com/corporate/about_companies.aspx)

I think it will be good for SketchUp AEC professionals, I'm seeing SketchUp going to be matured for AEC/GIS industry in coming years ;)
http://ww2.trimble.com/3d/Trimble_Customers_FAQ_SketchUp_pre-close_FINAL_20120426.pdf (http://ww2.trimble.com/3d/Trimble_Customers_FAQ_SketchUp_pre-close_FINAL_20120426.pdf)
Title: Re: THE FUTURE OF LUMION ?
Post by: RAD on April 26, 2012, 10:17:57 pm
That video is cool Aaron.
Nice share.
CryEngine3 and (AE.?)