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Title: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on January 31, 2012, 04:38:46 pm
hello,

The best graphics card for Lumion is GTX 580

I would like to know if the graphics card gtx 580 runs well on sketchup (350/450 MB files), Photoshop (150MB to 1GB files) and autocad 2D?

does anyone use this software in addition to lumion.

if I buy the gtx 580 is what I have to take the version 1.5GB or 3GB

Thank you for your answers  ;)
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: byzantium1200 on January 31, 2012, 04:56:16 pm
If you want a card that will outperform GTX 580 in AutoCAD: you will pay a lot more and you will have problems in Lumion and other software.

I have 1.5 GB and I did not have any problems yet even for huge scenes.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on January 31, 2012, 05:08:09 pm
Ok,

I use autocad for plans and sections.

You use the gtx 580 for sketchup and photoshop?
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: byzantium1200 on January 31, 2012, 05:27:18 pm
I use it with a lot of 3D programs but not Sketchup. Photoshop is not a critical program to choose a card for.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on January 31, 2012, 05:38:54 pm
Thank you for your answers.  ;)

I hope someone will answer this topyc for sketchup.

Can you give me the weight of your files lumion? just to get an idea
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: byzantium1200 on January 31, 2012, 05:51:05 pm
You may check my channel for sample scenes: http://www.youtube.com/byzantium1200 (http://www.youtube.com/byzantium1200) . The largest one is the port.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on January 31, 2012, 06:22:21 pm
wouahhhouu it's great ....

great job
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: byzantium1200 on January 31, 2012, 06:34:35 pm
wouahhhouu it's great ....

great job
Thanks IP_jeanlo. Lumion is really great...
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: peterm on January 31, 2012, 09:10:28 pm
Just to add, not SketchUP related, but if you are going to invest in a 580, for the extra $'s it would seem worthwhile getting the 3GB, that way you are better covered for larger scenes and future proofed a little more.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: jorgensen on January 31, 2012, 09:16:49 pm
@byzantium1200

wow, you sure know how to produce an atmosphere / mood !
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on January 31, 2012, 10:00:38 pm
I think take the gtx 580 1.5GB hoping to have less problems with the Quadro 4000.

it seems that there is not much difference between 3GB and 1.5GB.

when lumion accept SLI, I will take a second card.

I will take the N580GTX Twin Frozr II OC (MSI)
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: arch_bd on January 31, 2012, 10:20:24 pm
I think take the gtx 580 1.5GB hoping to have less problems with the Quadro 4000.

it seems that there is not much difference between 3GB and 1.5GB.

when lumion accept SLI, I will take a second card.

I will take the N580GTX Twin Frozr II OC (MSI)
Have a look to this chimera :D
AMD Radeonâ„¢ HD 7970 Graphics

ADMIN: VIDEO DELETED
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: byzantium1200 on January 31, 2012, 10:23:05 pm
You can not go wrong with GTX 580. I replaced an HD 6870 and I am very happy with it (never think about ATI again). Don't forget to check your power supply as nothing makes it shout more than Lumion.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on January 31, 2012, 10:53:29 pm
I keep a bad memory for graphics cards AMD Radeon HD ...

I'll stay on the gtx but thank you for your video ...

I have a power supply of 750 watts
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: sach on February 01, 2012, 12:24:25 am
What's supposed to be wrong with quadro 4000, i own one and no problem so far.

Sacha
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 01, 2012, 12:45:52 am
for small projects, I have no problem.

but when I work on large surfaces and I integrate many objects in lumion, my pc works in slow motion.

Then when I put the camera high in the sky to see all of my project, I can not see the trees, water and more objets.

http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=3083.0 (http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=3083.0)

Sacha .... sacha you work on what kind of project?

my config pc:
-processor i7 950
-graphic card quadro 4000
-mother board asus p6x58d-e
-memory 12go ddr3
-power: 750W
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: tug on February 01, 2012, 01:41:48 am
Hi, we have all graphic cards related above and after tested hardly, GTX 580 is the best one for lumion, we use a Gainward GTX 580 Phantom 3Gb.

For Acad and Sketchup Quadro cards are more accurate, we use Quadro 4000 2Gb and Quadro 5000N 2Gb.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 01, 2012, 10:06:47 am
I have some projects on sketchup with a weight of 450mo

is that the gtx 580 will cause problems in sketchup for this type of file?  :-\
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Morten on February 01, 2012, 10:57:45 am
but when I work on large surfaces and I integrate many objects in lumion, my pc works in slow motion.
The Quadro 4000 card is a bit slow if you're working with very detailed scenes in Lumion. Compare the PassMark score with the GTX 580 to see what you're missing out on :)
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Quadro+4000 (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Quadro+4000)

There's more information about graphics card requirements in this thread:
http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2548.0 (http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2548.0)

If you want to keep your Quadro 4000, there's a number of things you can do to get achieve better performance in Lumion:

1) Use Layers: Familiarise yourself with the Layer functionality in Lumion, so that you can show/hide models. There's more information about this in the Tips, Tricks and Shortcuts thread:
http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2548.0 (http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2548.0)

2) Editor quality: Set the Editor quality to 1 star while you're editing scenes. This function is available in the Settings menu, or you can press F1/F2/F3/F4 for 1/2/3/4 star quality.

3) Editor resolution: Use a smaller window for Lumion or change the resolution in Settings -> 75%/50%/25%.

About the disappearing objects you mentioned, trees and plants will disappear in the distance in Build mode, but this is on purpose to reduce their performance impact. You can however display all trees/plants in your scene at their highest level of detail if you press F9. This is also explained in the Tips, Tricks and Shortcuts thread:
http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2759.0 (http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2759.0)

To prevent the other objects from flickering/disappearing when you move the camera far away, add Scene Effects -> Camera Clip Planes effect to the clip, and adjust the Near plane slider until the flickering is gone. You can also animate the Near plane if necessary by clicking on the small circular button to the right of the slider to set a keyframe.

(http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2903.0;attach=5222;image)
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 01, 2012, 12:06:03 pm
Thank you for the information Morten  ;)

I already use layers on large projects.

I will test the resolution editor ...... and the effect of camera

Change the graphics card is not a problem for me but I would really like to know if the gtx580 1.5GB runs well on sketchup (file 350/450mo) and that I can not find on google.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Morten on February 01, 2012, 12:10:56 pm
Change the graphics card is not a problem for me but I would really like to know if the gtx580 1.5GB runs well on sketchup (file 350/450mo) and that I can not find on google.

Yes, it's definitely best to test it beforehand.

Perhaps one of the guys with a GTX 580 could test your scene in SketchUp (bearing in mind that differences in system RAM/CPU etc will influence the result)?
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 01, 2012, 12:40:03 pm
ok,

So I ask "is there someone who can open my sketchup files with your computer?"

I put the download file. rar
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 01, 2012, 01:40:33 pm
Hello there ....
ok,

So I ask "is there someone who can open my sketchup files with your computer?"

I put the download file. rar

Where is your file ? I have a GTX 580 but it's a Phantom with 3Go....
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 01, 2012, 01:43:54 pm
I can not put it on the forum ...

Is what I can send it via "http://dl.free.fr/"

ps: I'm French  ;)
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 01, 2012, 01:51:34 pm
Envoi toi le fichier depuis free sur ta boite mail... comme cela tu pourra mettre le lien de téléchargement sur le forum...


Send the file with freedl on your mailbox ... as you can put the download link on the forum ...
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 01, 2012, 01:55:48 pm
ok ....

I just start the download .... I return to the forum in 1 hour.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 01, 2012, 02:52:10 pm
message for people who have a GTX 580 1.5GB and 3GB and sketchup

can you try opening the file sketchup and see if the card gtx 580 runs well.

thank you in advance

http://dl.free.fr/ownt556Mp (http://dl.free.fr/ownt556Mp)

http://dl.free.fr/ownt556Mp (http://dl.free.fr/ownt556Mp)
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Morten on February 01, 2012, 03:20:41 pm
Thanks for helping out, Gilles. We can always count on you :)
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 01, 2012, 03:46:12 pm
you're welcome morten!  ;)
Download is very slow (2 hours left) but it's the freeDL fault (i have cable FAI with very good dowload rate) have to be patient IP_jeanlo  ::)
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 01, 2012, 03:57:00 pm
Patience is in me .... :-D

thank you for your help and thank you to the staff of lumion ...
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 01, 2012, 05:54:20 pm
CRC problem while unzipping archive  :-\
I download it again.... fortunately patience is in you lol
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: peterm on February 01, 2012, 08:52:57 pm
I find SkUp really slow with just one building model of about 2 to 6 MB, generally in load and it applying materials to the model, but I think its the CPU (quad core 6600) rather than the GPU (GTX 560 2MB) as same in Max is way faster.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 01, 2012, 11:12:14 pm
Gilles Gass,

I watched the phantom 3GB .... is that it runs well? you use it to sketchup, photoshop, autocad?

your power supply is xombien watts?

It's good for the download file?

Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 02, 2012, 11:37:42 am
hey,

message for people who have a GTX 580 1.5GB or 3GB

does anyone can download my sketchup file and check if it can be opened to the gtx ...

http://dl.free.fr/ownt556Mp (http://dl.free.fr/ownt556Mp)

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 02, 2012, 11:45:10 am
It's the third times i try to download your file and it's the third times that download fail after 2 hours...
Could you please use an other service like dropcloud or something like that...

Regards.
 
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 02, 2012, 12:09:47 pm
the file loads on drop cloud

I also thank you for your perseverance  ;)
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 02, 2012, 02:24:27 pm
https://www.filemail.com/dl.aspx?id=WAYQUEZJHPAWTRI (https://www.filemail.com/dl.aspx?id=WAYQUEZJHPAWTRI)

The file .....
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 02, 2012, 03:18:06 pm
arf... Download rate 3,3mo/s.... file downloaded in just 2 minutes  :-D
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 02, 2012, 04:07:18 pm
Ok bon j'ouvre ton fichier en 1 minute ... j'arrive à me donner mal au coeur en bougeant la scene ...tout est fluide...
Au fait je ne suis pas un utilisateur de sketchup mais d'archicad... j'utilise SU à l'occasion (conversion de certain format et connection avec google earth)

well I open your file in 1 minute ... I can give myself feeling sick by moving the scene ...
everything is fluid ...
In fact I am not a user of sketchup but archicad ... I use SU for conversion of certain format and connection with google earth.


My config:
MB: Asus sabertooth P67
Core i7 2600K OC @ 4,2gHz
8Go Ram
SSD OCZ Vertex 2 120
Alim Corsair Gold 750W
Gainward Phantom GTX580 3Go


PS 1: I don't really understand why your file is so heavy... probably the google earth photo ?!
PS 2:  Without testing i would have been able to tell you that GTX580 "rocks"  :P
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 02, 2012, 04:47:45 pm
ok ....
for me too, the file opens in 1 minute (see less)

Yes, the file size is the image

I don't understand when you say "GTX580" rocks "? is the best?

your config is better.

thank you for taking your time to test the file ....  ;)

yet one more question ....

in addition to using the gtx 580 for ArchiCAD, SketchUp lumion .... you use it with other programs?
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 02, 2012, 05:30:23 pm

I don't understand when you say "GTX580" rocks "? is the best?

La gtx 580 déchire tout, c'est une vrai bombe  :-D

Quote
in addition to using the gtx 580 for ArchiCAD, SketchUp lumion .... you use it with other programs?

ArcGis , Archiwizard, artlantis, photoshop, illustrator.... But it works also very well with word and excel  lol :-P
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 02, 2012, 08:53:38 pm
I was not sure that the card runs well on Word and Excel .... :-D

I thought about before to buy it ....

if you say you use this card for these programs and there is no problem of crash .... I will not hesitate long.

I will put the video'project in the forum when it is completed

Good night .... ;)
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: jordan230 on February 02, 2012, 11:42:30 pm
does somebody know what is the difference between these two:

Single 3GB GDDR5 EVGA GTX 580 CLASSIFIED.....$517.00

Single 3GB GDDR5 Nvidia GTX 580....... $493.00

I do not know which one of the two I should buy???? |:(

thanks for the help!!!
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: IP_jeanlo on February 03, 2012, 09:10:43 am
Hey,

I dont find The nvidia gtx 580 3go....

I look at the forums for a few days and for me the best is the Gainward card 3GB phantom.

it does not heat up and is silent.
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 03, 2012, 10:17:05 am
"Single 3GB GDDR5 Nvidia GTX 580" is a generic card with the reference design...

EVGA, Asus, gainward ... add their gpu fan over-clock the ram or the gpu....
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: jordan230 on February 04, 2012, 05:11:41 pm
"Single 3GB GDDR5 Nvidia GTX 580" is a generic card with the reference design...

EVGA, Asus, gainward ... add their gpu fan over-clock the ram or the gpu....

Thanks Gga Mars, so you suggest EVGA... What does overclocking ram or gpu means, sorry for this questions but i am not a tech savy.i just want to make a wise desicion!! Thanks
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 04, 2012, 05:51:41 pm
Hey jordan !
Don't take care about that... buy a gtx580 3go ... every model will be excellent for lumion...
Some of 580gtx from constructor may be quieter than the cheapest or are able to be over-clocked  with some gain (about 15 to 20 % in crysis by example) but you'll need to tweak a little ...
forget that  ;)  i can overclock my phantom with the gainward software, but I don't do it... for the instant it's not very useful ( hum except for a huge project by night with tons of lights...)

bye  :-D
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: jordan230 on February 06, 2012, 05:49:29 pm
Hey jordan !
Don't take care about that... buy a gtx580 3go ... every model will be excellent for lumion...
Some of 580gtx from constructor may be quiet than the cheapest or are able to be over-clocked  with some gain (about 15 to 20 % in crysis by example) but you'll need to tweak a little ...
forget that  ;)  i can overclock my phantom with the gainward software, but I don't do it... for the instant it's not very useful ( hum except for a huge project by night with tons of lights...)

bye  :-D
Hey Gga_Mars, thank you for your response but still not clear what is ram & gpu overclocking??
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 06, 2012, 06:27:43 pm
Hi,
by increasing the frequency of ram or gpu with a dedicated software, it allows you to make that your Video-card runs faster.....
Is it clear now ?  :-D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking)
http://www.overclock.net/ (http://www.overclock.net/)

there is a tons of website about this subject....

Regards
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: jordan230 on February 06, 2012, 07:45:21 pm
Hi,
by increasing the frequency of ram or gpu with a dedicated software, it allows you to make that your Video-card runs faster.....
Is it clear now ?  :-D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking)
http://www.overclock.net/ (http://www.overclock.net/)

there is a tons of website about this subject....

Regards




got it!! thanks!!!
Title: Re: GTX 580 for lumion and .....
Post by: Gga_Mars on February 06, 2012, 08:26:04 pm
you're welcome  ;)