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Title: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Remko on November 04, 2011, 08:57:04 pm
Check it out:

http://lumion3d.com/lumion2preview (http://lumion3d.com/lumion2preview)

You can preorder now and you get 10% discount on Lumion Ultimate if you order before the release.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: peterm on November 04, 2011, 11:12:06 pm
Well done.  Great surprise!!  :-P Christmas time for the next 2 months  :D

Is this an alpha or beta phase?

Lights:
IES?
Will lights have smooth soft umbras to compare/compete with raytrace lighting?

Animation: full control over the path?

True time of day? or is that still on the way?
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Jacobs Architekten on November 04, 2011, 11:18:52 pm
WOW... can't wait to test the free version  ;)
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Pete Stoppel on November 04, 2011, 11:31:06 pm
Quote
Did you know that Animators get paid by the Second ?.....
a 30 second animation @ $100 a second !

Not in this economy, at least not my cheap wad clients.  >:(

Version 2 looks awesome, congratulations guys.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: ilwedritschel on November 05, 2011, 12:40:21 am
Please

10% from what ?

how much lumions (euro) for the upgrade?
lumion 1.0 to lumion 2.0, or is there no update?
must i buy the lumion 2.0 for the full price too?

please explain i can`t understand.

i am only basic lumioner with 3 plugins
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Remko on November 05, 2011, 01:12:04 am
Since the price depends on what you have you can click in the customer area to see the price in the shop and you can also see what your discount is.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Noire on November 05, 2011, 01:34:22 am
awesome! really awesome! that's a GREAT job and more fantastic evolution of LumiON  :o
will it work properly on PCconfiguration for LumiON 1.0?
that's very good news - i'm constructing a big city in SU (http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2114.0 (http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2114.0)) and artificial lightning will be awesome!!!
LumiON team - you're gods of RT presentations. honestly.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: ilwedritschel on November 05, 2011, 02:12:15 am
Since the price depends on what you have you can click in the customer area to see the price in the shop and you can also see what your discount is.


i found it, thanks remko for your quick reply.
i woud buy the the basic upgrade the preview is super. is the upgrade price include the plugins or only for the basic version?
for the basicversion there is no preorder discount then can y wait till the version 2 is available and pay the bill at the time, or is there something change for the listet price?
Some other features and content will be released as separate plug-ins for the Basic version.
please what the price for the plugins. its not posible to compare. the information are to rar.

i`m at loss what to do. buy the udgrade to lumion 2 ultimate or basic with the needed plugins.

remko please .what the best is the price the same or what to do  ??? ??? ??? ???

ps.
last week i bought adobe lightroom 3 for the normalprice in the adobe shop, if i registration the programm by adobe, i get a spezial offer to buy only on this day with 50% lees. that is not nice.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Remko on November 05, 2011, 02:24:47 am
We're still finishing the final details but the lighting is quite fast. The scene in the movie contains around 15 shadow maps and 3 shadow maps for the sun so that's a total of of 18 shadow maps. With a shadow map resolution of 2048 AND gausian blur on the shadow map I still got 17fps. For the final release we want to limit the number of shadow maps displayed in real-time to keep performance up. In final render the shadow map cost is not that big so that's really good news. Even without shadows the lighting looks great.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Pete Stoppel on November 05, 2011, 02:31:13 am
Any chance of tutorials for all the new features?
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Remko on November 05, 2011, 03:06:31 am
Any chance of tutorials for all the new features?

I think it is a good idea to do a live capture of all the new stuff so you can get a good overview.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Arthur on November 05, 2011, 10:10:03 am
Upgrade prices:

Note: If you ordered a full Lumion 1.0 license after October 1 2011 you will receive a free upgrade to Lumion 2.0 when it is released!

Basic upgrades

Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 0 plugin E. 249.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 1 plugin E. 299.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 2 plugins E. 349.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 3 plugins E. 399.--   
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 4 plugins E. 449.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 5 plugins E. 499.--

Ultimate upgrades (10% discount until november 31)

Ultimate 1 Upgrade to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 499.--

Upgrade Lumion Basic to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 1249.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 1 plugin to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 1099.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 2 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 949.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 3 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 799.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 4 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 649.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 5 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 499.--
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Gray Bear on November 05, 2011, 11:42:19 am
Why can't users have Lumion 1.0 basic who wish to upgrade to lumion 2.0 basic equally have 10% discount? As an earlier adopter to Lumion, I feel alienated in a way being treated like that. :(
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: newman on November 05, 2011, 11:50:09 am
My best hopes and wishes come truth! Great!  :-D :-D :-D
Congratulations! You are the the most dynamic command of originators on the field!
And if you could improve positioning and let to dig holes with vertical slopes, you would win the world of visualisation. So i intend to change seats of my students from Vue to Lumion.

P.S. Beg your pardon i could not make good positioning of L - I lost the patience.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: jordan230 on November 05, 2011, 02:54:41 pm
Why can't users have Lumion 1.0 basic who wish to upgrade to lumion 2.0 basic equally have 10% discount? As an earlier adopter to Lumion, I feel alienated in a way being treated like that. :(

I agree with you.... I bought lumion almost as soon as they released it.. I do not use all the plug ins.... thats the only reasons i do not upgrade to the ultimate version. I wish you could purchased individually what you need and not the whole plug in package. For example i do not need the smoke, fire, etc effects, but will love to have the water wall effect, but for me it is not worth it to buy the whole plug in package just for that. It will be a lot better if we can have the option of buying individually. Another example that this apply is for the new object/light library. For example if you only want to buy one chair/light fixture instead of buying the full library since i am not going to be interested in all the objects/ ligth fixtures they provide. Lets have the option to buy what you need instead of the full plug in package. Other than that i think lumion is awesome and you guys have done a great software... Lumion 2 is AWESOME and for sure i will do the ugrade... With the 10% like the ultimate users.  :-D
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Yang Hang-EC on November 05, 2011, 03:33:12 pm
Upgrade prices:

Note: If you ordered Lumion 1.0 after October 1 2011 you will receive a free upgrade to Lumion 2.0 when it is released!

Basic upgrades

Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 0 plugin E. 249.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 1 plugin E. 299.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 2 plugins E. 349.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 3 plugins E. 399.--   
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 4 plugins E. 449.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 5 plugins E. 499.--

Ultimate upgrades (10% discount until november 31)

Ultimate 1 Upgrade to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 499.--

Upgrade Lumion Basic to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 1249.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 1 plugin to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 1099.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 2 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 949.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 3 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 799.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 4 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 649.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 5 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 499.--

I November 5, 2011 just bought Lumion SP1 Ultimate, how do free upgrade to Lumion 2.0?
My new ID: sketchupbbsthree
Brian
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Arthur on November 05, 2011, 05:06:25 pm
You bought a full Lumion Ultimate license with credits, the credits shop gives Lumion 1 keys. You will get a free update to Lumion 2. We will upgrade the key when Lumion 2 will be released.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: arch_bd on November 05, 2011, 05:08:14 pm
GOD THIS IS LUMION MIRACLE.
AMAZING
Thanks to the tireless and creative staff.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: SketchUpBBS on November 05, 2011, 05:27:55 pm
You bought it with credits, the credits shop gives Lumion 1 keys. You will get a free update to Lumion 2. We will upgrade the key when Lumion 2 will be released.

Today, I bought the upgrade process, I ask what time I can upgrade to Lumion 2.0 version?
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Arthur on November 05, 2011, 06:36:46 pm
Today, I bought the upgrade process, I ask what time I can upgrade to Lumion 2.0 version?
If you have an upgrade key you can upgrade your account now. You will be able to download Lumion 2 when it will be released (scheduled for november/december).
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: SketchUpBBS on November 05, 2011, 06:56:29 pm
If you have an upgrade key you can upgrade your account now. You will be able to download Lumion 2 when it will be released (scheduled for november/december).

Thank you for your quick reply, sketchupbbsthree and sketchupbbs account can hope to soon try and  free upgrade new lumion 2.0 version. Hope lumion getting better and better!
Best Regrds,
Brian
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: stucki on November 05, 2011, 08:35:49 pm
this looks very interesting !!
much more information is needed though

what kind of lights can be placed, point, spot, planes, ie ?
does outdoor and indoor work together, or do i have seto use perate scenes for them ?

cant wait to get my fingers on it ....

best regards
stucki
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Noire on November 06, 2011, 12:32:57 am
will L2 have options to populate big areas of landscape? like freehand tool - draw a freehand curve on landscape then click -populate- than choose what to populate (trees, stones, animals from libraries or from imported objects). And -poof!- our selected area is forest with a lot of grass and flying birds over it, or ocean shore with a lot of stones and fish and etc. is it hard to do?
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Pete Stoppel on November 06, 2011, 01:05:35 am
You refering to ecosystems, yeah that would be awesome.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Gray Bear on November 06, 2011, 10:39:24 am
Upgrade prices:

Note: If you ordered a full[ Lumion 1.0 license after October 1 2011 you will receive a free upgrade to Lumion 2.0 when it is released!

Basic upgrades

Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 0 plugin E. 249.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 1 plugin E. 299.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 2 plugins E. 349.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 3 plugins E. 399.--   
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 4 plugins E. 449.--
Upgrade to Lumion 2 Basic 5 plugins E. 499.--

Ultimate upgrades (10% discount until november 31)

Ultimate 1 Upgrade to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 499.--

Upgrade Lumion Basic to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 1249.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 1 plugin to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 1099.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 2 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 949.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 3 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 799.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 4 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 649.--
Upgrade Lumion Basic 5 plugins to Lumion 2 Ultimate E. 499.--


Hi Arthur, Just a quick question about your note saying if we ordered a full Lumion 1.0 license after October 1 2011 we will receive a free upgrade to Lumion 2.0 when it is released!

So, is that mean if I go and purchase 4000 credits now to have my current version of Lumion 1.0 basic 1 license(which was purchased before 1st OCT) upgraded to Full (Ultimate) Version before Lumion 2 releases, I will enjoy the benefit of receiving Lumion 2.0 Ultimate for free when it's available in NOV/DEC?

Cheers
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Lars on November 06, 2011, 11:13:08 am
More details about other new features would be appreciated.
I'm hoping for: updated material system, file/content management, easy grouping tools (block/component system), more options for placement of objects (mentioned above in posts)

I'm just hoping that there will be significant improvements/new features in areas other than the lighting system and that these improvements are not only available as seperate plugin packs.
For example the new clouds look awesome! But I get the feeling that's not in the basic version.

I have faith in the Lumion team that they will give us enough new features to justify the upgrade.
Preview looks very promising! Great stuff!
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Ferry on November 06, 2011, 02:29:53 pm
It is already a lot of work to get the current features we want to offer together. The clouds and the lights are part of the basic version though in the future we might add some more lights to ultimate but that is undecided.

Remember that just like version 1 with version 2 you are also getting all the updates we will do on version 2.0. Those updates are more likely to address user requests and the main 2.0 build we will use our time to try to finish huge features.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: kshen on November 06, 2011, 04:18:39 pm
Does Lumion 2.0 have a material manager like 3ds Max?  Will it be possible to reuse a user created material?  What about translucent materials, like frosted glass?

Will we have finer control of geometries imported from one model?  I would like to be able to animate parts of a model, such as shading devices.

Is there a plug-in for Revit 2012 or does Lumion 2.0 now able to read FBX that's directly exported from Revit 2012?

Can we get an avatar for walking around?
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Noire on November 07, 2011, 01:08:01 am
What about ecosystems? pls - need to know
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Remko on November 07, 2011, 01:38:56 pm
What about ecosystems? pls - need to know

I have no clue what that is but I'm pretty sure we won't have an ecosystem in Lumion 2.0 :D
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Proso on November 07, 2011, 03:36:32 pm
Will 2.0 come with video texture?
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: tug on November 07, 2011, 04:06:19 pm
Hi Remko and Ferry

first of all thanks for your support and efforts with Lumion. really indeed amazing software .

Maybe I'm in a mistake, but you don't talk about those of us whom have  "Lumion 1 Ultimate" right now, which is the price to "Lumion 2 Ultimate" Upgrade.

When we bought, few months ago,  the ultimate upgrade there was no official idea to upgrade till Lumion 2.

regards
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: BSA on November 07, 2011, 04:10:02 pm
I have asked this in the past and I was told it would be availible in 2.0 but I do not see it in the new features list, so I'll ask again.

Will we be able to open and save a project to/from a location WE want and not to/from the standard location Lumion wants? It is now impossible to move a project from one location (computer) to another one, which is not very workable in a buisiness situation.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Nico RVArq.com on November 07, 2011, 04:32:40 pm
And what about StandAlone EXE?  :-\
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Morten on November 07, 2011, 04:59:55 pm
Maybe I'm in a mistake, but you don't talk about those of us whom have  "Lumion 1 Ultimate" right now, which is the price to "Lumion 2 Ultimate" Upgrade.
Hi Lofts, this information is available in Arthur's previous post (Lumion 1 Ultimate to Lumion 2 Ultimate: €499):
http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2279.msg13953#msg13953 (http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2279.msg13953#msg13953)
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Morten on November 07, 2011, 05:02:10 pm
Will we be able to open and save a project to/from a location WE want and not to/from the standard location Lumion wants?

Not yet.

It is now impossible to move a project from one location (computer) to another one, which is not very workable in a buisiness situation.

I agree that it is a hassle, but it is not impossible to move a project from 1 PC to another. You basically need to copy C:\Users\_____\Documents\Lumion to the same location on the other PC. Then deactivate the Lumion license on the first PC and activate it on the other PC. Let me know if you need any more help.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: cbcarch on November 07, 2011, 05:32:18 pm
Congrats!  The lighting feature has been the only thing which made us choose NOT to purchase Lumion thus far. We are very excited to see the new release and begin using it in our workflow.
Thanks for listening and adding these new features.

cheers!  ;)
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: tug on November 07, 2011, 05:33:20 pm
Hi Lofts, this information is available in Arthur's previous post (Lumion 1 Ultimate to Lumion 2 Ultimate: €499):
http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2279.msg13953#msg13953 (http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2279.msg13953#msg13953)

Thanks morten, preordered Lumion 2.

waiting for news..
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: stucki on November 07, 2011, 05:34:50 pm
what kind of lights will be in lumion 2.0

in the pictures released so far i saw directed spotlights.
are there any other ?
 
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: cbcarch on November 07, 2011, 05:49:45 pm
I have no clue what that is but I'm pretty sure we won't have an ecosystem in Lumion 2.0 :D

"Ecosystems" similar to what Vue has. Paintbrush landscapes, rocks, vegetation, etc.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: ramdy on November 07, 2011, 06:22:34 pm
And what about StandAlone EXE?  :-\
Use Quest3d for that ;)
http://www.quest3d.com/ (http://www.quest3d.com/)
http://support2.quest3d.com/index.php?title=QFramework_overview (http://support2.quest3d.com/index.php?title=QFramework_overview)
Ok it is more complicated to use but there are even games made with it and a great community willing to help.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: gabrielefx on November 07, 2011, 06:43:52 pm
This is a great news.

what about improvements on reflections and flipped/overlapped polygons?

what means improved importing? Can I import animated cameras? (please add roll)

The new animation path system supports z axes or is planar only?

I saw in the video demo an amazing  nightsky with stars, can we decide if enable/disable them? stars are mapped constellations? Does the moon support phases?

Cross sections is cool. Make a video please...

and pencil style is impressive...

Many compliments.

Regards
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: BMcIsaac on November 07, 2011, 08:44:26 pm
Thanks guys looks cool ...will be watchin for now....

Quote
will L2 have options to populate big areas of landscape? like freehand tool - draw a freehand curve on landscape then click -populate- than choose what to populate (trees, stones, animals from libraries or from imported objects).

Wow!...in my neck of the woods (pardon pun) having that capability would save us hours on each job...simple as that. I think in order to make it happen (to keep the lumion speed) the target rig would have to be 22gigcpu  3-5giggpu.  I think Lumion has been targeted for more like 12 gig/1.5gig.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: dsmelcer1234 on November 07, 2011, 11:45:20 pm
What new plugins will be available as part of Lumion 2 Ultimate, that is not already in Lumion 1 Ultimate? Will it just include expanded content from the original plugins, or will there be some whole new plugins? It is my understanding that skies and Lights will be apart of Lumion 2 Basic.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Arthur on November 08, 2011, 07:08:19 am
Lumion Ultimate contains all plugins. Sky and lighting are in both Basic and Ultimate. Some lighting effects will be in a separate plugin. This will be announced later.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: BSA on November 08, 2011, 08:52:11 am
Not yet.

I agree that it is a hassle, but it is not impossible to move a project from 1 PC to another. You basically need to copy C:\Users\_____\Documents\Lumion to the same location on the other PC. Then deactivate the Lumion license on the first PC and activate it on the other PC. Let me know if you need any more help.

Well we kinda found out about this already, but it is a lot of work and not very user friendly. Also the Users directory is growing pretty big with all those Lumion projects so the user profiles on our server are getting way to big. To be honest, I don't see why more people are concerned about this, what if that one computer crashes, I can hardly ask a user to make a backup of all his files every day.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Proso on November 08, 2011, 09:14:12 am
What about video texture???? I want to turn on a television in my interior animation.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Morten on November 08, 2011, 11:08:36 am
Well we kinda found out about this already, but it is a lot of work and not very user friendly.

Yes, we are well aware of this.

It is now impossible to move a project from one location (computer) to another one

You used the word "impossible" in your penultimate post, so I got the impression that you didn't know that it is... well, possible. Hence the instructions :)
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: mihu on November 08, 2011, 11:51:35 am
free update if purchased after 1st October??? :((((((((((((( I activated on September 30th :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: BSA on November 08, 2011, 01:01:46 pm
You used the word "impossible" in your penultimate post, so I got the impression that you didn't know that it is... well, possible. Hence the instructions :)

ah Ok sorry about that, I should have said almost impossible then  })
but I stick with my idea that it is not good for a business situation to not be able to open and save your projects to a location of your choice. Any word on when it will be possible?
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Ferry on November 08, 2011, 10:21:10 pm
We want to focus on the big new features for the first 2.0 release so that they are a bit polished. But just like 1.0 SP1 2.0 SP1 will change many more of the basic working of Lumion. There are some big issues with people sharing the folder on a network drive which is the reason we didn't implement it yet. We will try some different ideas we have for saving and keep you updated on our ideas.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: blendman on November 09, 2011, 05:27:32 am
Looks good! 

Regards,

Blendman
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Michael Betke on November 09, 2011, 08:22:15 am
Will Lumion be abandoned now or do we get still bugfixes for it? Especially the normalmapping bug i submitted recently.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Ferry on November 09, 2011, 09:39:16 am
We didn't plan yet if there will be a new 1.0 release. However all bugs will first be fixed for 2.0
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Michael Betke on November 09, 2011, 09:53:07 am
So it can happen that I spent hundrets of euros and don't get a fundamental bug fixed to make my normalmaps work with a custom material only if I upgrade and spend another bunch of additional hundreds euros?! It's a bit "Autodsk'ish", isn't it?
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: stucki on November 09, 2011, 10:29:16 am
i am a little bit disappointed about prices/upgrade politics too.

first there was lumion and we gladly paid for it ...
than there came plugins we could pay for ..
than there was ultimate wich we could upgrade to..
now comes lumion 2.0 and we can upgrade to it.

besides every plugin has to be upgraded with it (which is complete nonsense to me.. )

thats still somewhere okay for me ( even if at first lumion seemed to be very fair priced ... now its a little bit different for me ..)

but there are still so many really basic but big issues with lumion 1.0 that will not be adressed in lumion 2.0

- no real transparencies
- no isometries or parallel cameras
- no grouping and saving/opening groups
- no possibility of saving in folders
- no possibilty of exporting movie effects and importing them in another project ..
- no possibility of changing textures for the objects in the library
- no possibility of rendering an exact frame from a movie
- if i render a movie several times it will always look different ( because the wind factor is always different at the beginning ( a movie effect or a wind-start-value would help much )
- no movie textures
- the impractical method of rotating, scaling, moving at the bottom of the menue
- and there is more i just didnt remind yet.


and now the possibility lumion team will leave lumion 1.0 as is and wont even fix the remaining bugs ...

to me it seems that lumion 2.0 is so much more eyecandy to impress, but no real important
update to the core and the useability of lumion.

please dont get me wrong i really love lumion its speed and its eyecande very much, but please adress a little more to the important things and dont leave lumion 1.0 as it is

kind regards
stucki
 



Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Remko on November 09, 2011, 01:17:23 pm
@Stucki: Ultimate is Lumion with all possible plug-ins. So, yes at some point we introduced plug-ins and we introduced the Ultimate version as an easy way to get everything at once. Don't forget the immense amount of improvements we added to v1.0 even if you never got any plug-ins at all.

You can always wait and see and stick to v1.0 until you see something worth upgrading for. I myself am still using Photoshop CS3 for example because all the updates do not contain anything I need.

It's easy to make a list of what is not included but I can assure you there are many new things in v2.0 which make it a great release. Indoor lighting was no. 1 feature on the list of most customers for example. Improved animation is another feature I have seen mentioned very often. After the 2.0 release service packs will follow with more detailed tweaks.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: kshen on November 09, 2011, 03:23:16 pm
Will there be a free version of Lumion 2.0 for testing
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Arthur on November 09, 2011, 03:31:30 pm
Will there be a free version of Lumion 2.0 for testing
Yes, it will be released after the release of Lumion 2 Commercial
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: stucki on November 09, 2011, 04:42:37 pm
i am trying to not forget all the improvements in 1.0 and i really love them all !

but there are still so important things that should be improved, before advancing further on the road to more beauty, to make this program better usable.

in my opinion it would be better to get rid of all structural glitches before adding more functionality.

will there be detailled infos about lumion 2.0 soon ?

At the moment i cant decide if i should take advantage of the 10% discount or not
because i know to little about 2.0

e.g. what light are in basic, which will become an plugin ?
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: renato on November 09, 2011, 05:24:21 pm
hi,

what about those who buy the lumion ultimate more than 3 months ago, do we get an update for the lumion 2 ultimate.

just like in autodesk 3ds max software we just got an update till there 2012 version.

thanks

best regards,
Renato
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Remko on November 10, 2011, 09:53:49 am
hi,

what about those who buy the lumion ultimate more than 3 months ago, do we get an update for the lumion 2 ultimate.

just like in autodesk 3ds max software we just got an update till there 2012 version.

thanks

best regards,
Renato

Users who purchased Lumion after October 1 2011 will get the upgrade for free. Other users can upgrade for around 33% of the 1.0 price.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: renato on November 10, 2011, 11:56:25 am
Users who purchased Lumion after October 1 2011 will get the upgrade for free. Other users can upgrade for around 33% of the 1.0 price.

hi remko,

i'm just wondering if the user of license is less than 1 year, can get an update. i guess not. :(

so we don't have a choice but to buy the upgrade. :'(

but we love all the updates that you done. :D

i hope your not releasing the lumion 3 early or mid next year. :'(

thanks.

cheers...
Renato

Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Remko on November 10, 2011, 12:56:02 pm
hi remko,

i'm just wondering if the user of license is less than 1 year, can get an update. i guess not. :(

so we don't have a choice but to buy the upgrade. :'(

but we love all the updates that you done. :D

i hope your not releasing the lumion 3 early or mid next year. :'(

thanks.

cheers...
Renato



Our plan is to release yearly with an update every nov/dec.

In between we'll have updates in the form of service packs like we did with Lumion 1.0
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: renato on November 11, 2011, 02:59:47 am
Our plan is to release yearly with an update every nov/dec.

In between we'll have updates in the form of service packs like we did with Lumion 1.0

that is good :D

which mean the best time to buy lumion is december and first quarter of the year ;), in that way we can enjoy and most important is we can make money before the next version is release. :(

anyhow what can we do :'(. business is business right. 8), everybody want to make money on it.

thanks... ;)

cheers... :D
Renato

Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: billet323 on November 11, 2011, 01:38:41 pm
the best time to buy is now!  You get a 10% Discount ;)
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: dbaird on November 14, 2011, 05:17:34 pm
Like others have suggested, as a potential new "pre-orderer" it would be good to see a itemized list of improvements and new features from Lumion 1.0 to Lumion 2.0.

We primarily would use Lumion for Architecture so we are interested in features that affect lighting, materials, placing objects, etc.

The preview video is ok but is difficult to tell how the lighting really works, etc.

Over all nice and friendly product.  Great work in the Gallery.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: stucki on November 14, 2011, 05:40:10 pm
we need more information on lumion 2.0 features, so we can decide to use the discount offer or not.

what types of lights ar there in 2.0 (point, planar, spot etc. )
how many lights can we use per scene ? is there a limit ?
are the lights animatable ?
...
..
.

and why isnt there a 10% bonus on the normal update to 2.0 for the preorder ?

kind regards
stucki



Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: peterm on November 14, 2011, 09:42:52 pm
hi stucki:
There is, it applies to new buyers or current Lumion licensees (re
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and why isnt there a 10% bonus on the normal update to 2.0 for the preorder ?
.

If you go to your Customer Area you will see the pre-order says it includes a 10% discount for pre-order, and if you click on the button it will fill the order form to include the discount.

Can't test for Basic plus add-ons but it does it for Ultimate version.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: renato on November 16, 2011, 07:13:05 am
Hi.

Question...
If i buy the update for lumion 2. and i have already the lumion 1... which mean i have two license?
i can still use my lumion 1 license and also the lumion 2 license. at the same time. is that right ???

cheers... :-D
renato
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Arthur on November 16, 2011, 07:43:19 am
You have one license. The upgrade key makes the old license invalid. However, you are able to use both Lumion 1 and Lumion 2 with the new key.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Studio4d on November 16, 2011, 12:24:20 pm
Hi,
Congratulation for coming up with such a beautiful peice of software.I feel if you could add atmosphere presets like ozone(E-ON software). and could add a vegetation painter. It will be the best software for architectural visualization as it is. no one would be able to beat it.

My heartiest regards to the developers team & the one who visualized it.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Dje on November 21, 2011, 06:36:14 pm
Hello,

my customers wants some lights and night renders! When do you release Lumion 2?

i need it! please give us a date  :-\

best regards
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Arthur on November 21, 2011, 08:28:10 pm
Hi,

When it's finished  ;) But you won't have to wait too long.
The release is scheduled for december.

Arthur
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Remko on November 25, 2011, 12:38:44 pm
(Moved the thread about exe publishing requests to a new topic: http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2415.0 (http://lumion3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2415.0))
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: RvdDG on November 26, 2011, 10:28:47 am
I have been working with lumion now for 2 months and my boss was so satisfied to purchase a ultimate license. Can't wait to get my hands on 2.0!

Isn't it an idea to start a online lumion model library like 3d warehouse for sketchup?aInclude it with a feature for direct import, and if it is possible, to show them in the standard library of lumion and not the model import area?

And please make it possible to tilt and roll the camera!!

Keep up the good work!! Thank you Lumion

Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: blendman on November 27, 2011, 05:08:23 am


And please make it possible to tilt and roll the camera!!...

PLEASE BRING ON THIS FEATURE IN LUMION 2 !!!

Many thanks,

blendman
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: -GeoHow on November 27, 2011, 07:05:02 am

And please make it possible to tilt and roll the camera!!...

PLEASE BRING ON THIS FEATURE IN LUMION 2 !!!


++ :)
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: TJA on December 02, 2011, 07:45:20 am
Till when will the 10% discount be available? The ZAR value is hugely depreciated at the moment and it will cost me quite a bit more than usually if I get it right now. Regards...
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Morten on December 02, 2011, 02:59:43 pm
It was originally until Nov 30, but I'm not involved in sales, so I'm unsure if this has changed. I'll ask Arthur as soon as he is available again.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Arthur on December 02, 2011, 05:48:42 pm
Originally it was until Nov 30. However it will be prolonged until the final release.
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Nie Wen on December 06, 2011, 02:25:58 am
有没有中文版同时发布啊? })
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: blendman on December 06, 2011, 05:47:17 am


You never know Nie Wen, a Chinese version may come about one day!, but probably not this version (2.0)   ;)

Nie Wen wrote:  有没有中文版同时发布啊
Title: Re: Lumion 2.0 Preview!!!!
Post by: Arthur on December 06, 2011, 05:02:50 pm
We are working on localized versions. Later builds of Lumion 2 will have more languages, such as chinese.