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Title: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: b.lamein on July 25, 2011, 03:09:14 pm
I was wondering which software everyone uses next to Lumion or with Lumion.

I mean do you make the 3d models with SketchUp or with 3ds max or other software?

And wat is the best software to make the models with or what is de best software to use next to Lumion? Maybe there is other software you recommend with Lumion?

I`m hoping to hear from you!
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: See3D.be on July 25, 2011, 03:11:39 pm
Question to that can be, what do you want to model, whats your expierence in 3d and your budged.

I guess most used will be 3ds max and sketchup
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: cbcarch on July 25, 2011, 03:16:42 pm
From an Architect's view:

We model everything in Revit, then export via FBX to 3dsMax, then export to OpenCollada
and import into Lumion. Not an easy workflow, and all materials ( Mental Ray from Revit/Max )
must be replaced.

It would be VERY helpful if Lumion provided a plug-in for Revit ( TwinMotion has such a plug-in. )

cheers
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: cpercer on July 25, 2011, 05:32:13 pm
Another Architect's view:

We used to do it like cbcarch; however, due to the extremely large size of our models (cities), we have begun modifying everything in 3ds max.  We remove unwanted faces, i.e.the bottoms and sides of floors. We are very careful to make curved faces from segmented lines to reduce the poly count.  We do not spend time tweaking materials in Revit, we only make sure material assignments are different.  We also use Sketchup for massing and such.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: marvins_dad on July 25, 2011, 05:47:59 pm
Sketchup to Lumion via 3d export from Collada.
Occassionally if we have the model worked out in Revit we will do Revit->SketchUp->Lumion...with lots of detail work and all material mapping done in SketchUp.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: Gga_Mars on July 25, 2011, 06:17:21 pm
Hi there...  :D
I work on Archicad and export in 3ds or .obj
For urban planning i also use Arcgis.

Personally i don't think that most of architect use 3ds max before going in lumion and for those  who do so i think they hope to be able to go to Lumion directly.   :-D

If the slogan of Lumion is "quick and easy architecture visualization" i think that the place of Lumion in "our" work flow (i mean for us "humble architect")  is just after an architecture software .

There is not dozen Architecture software... (Autodesk/Revit, Sketchup, and Nemetschek product: ALLplan, Archicad, vectoworks)
Of course maybe some user here use some "exotic product" lol

And what about the Industry foundation classes (IFC) most of software are compatible, isn't it ?
(i know that ifc is not only a geometric file and keep all informations of the BIM. When i was a student we test ifc to exchange with seismic simulator, thermal software or acoustic isolation simulation. I can also say that i never work with someone who use it but we are a very small agency... )

bye bye

Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: b.lamein on July 25, 2011, 09:03:37 pm
Indeed an Revit plugin would be great, because I think Revit has an very large market. Autodesk is starting now with showcase but that not as far as Lumion. Cool thing about showcase though is that you can also show some 'design options' like different colors or different entrances or something like that (mayby something for Lumion in the future???).

If Lumion could handle IFC that would be great to, because of you use a BIM model with different software the best exchange file is IFC. An IFC should contain all the infomation you need for Lumion.

For now I personally use the most SketchUp and ocassionally I use Revit. But I`m still a bit testing with that...
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: RAD on July 25, 2011, 10:13:59 pm
To add to the list.
I've also used Rhino3D to get into Lumion as both FBX and 3ds.

 :)

Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: Gaieus on August 03, 2011, 03:33:52 pm
I use SketchUp and export both as collada and fbx (SketchUp Pro only). Fbx seems to work better when you need to reload your model (with minor changes) as the SU-to-Collada exporter renames all materials and messes up linked textures.

Now I wonder if the Revit FBX export could not be used directly in Lumion?
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: Michael Betke on August 04, 2011, 02:12:41 pm
Artist view working with architects and all kind of other planing guys:

Import .dwg into 3dsmax and build model/scene there or import from sketchup if client delivered it.
Then OpenCollada to Lumion.

I also fire up CG rendering from the same model. depends what clients wishes. :)
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: BMcIsaac on August 04, 2011, 02:25:32 pm
My pick is Sketchup. My architect customers have a very short season and so the key to the workflow for me is speed. They just can't get it out in-house fast enough with some of the traditional drawing products. Sketchup is the only speed demon out there that I am aware of. When Lumion came along it was a natural for Sketchup. Lumion is a speed demon as well.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: RT-Visualization on August 04, 2011, 03:46:48 pm
( :-r Autodesk :-r ) Softimage, which is much more used in Animation and Cinematics, but the tools for modeling are amazing and the workflow is very very smooth...
But everyone keeps complaining that you can't setup the units, which is a very lame excuse  :-D :-D :-D :-D
Poor architects, without an unit near the numbers they're lost ( no offense, but is true  :D :D )
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: tug on September 10, 2011, 06:04:44 pm
We use Sketchup and Acad 2012, as Gaeius said exporting in FBX and DAE, if the model is very heavy and must do changes after check how was imported, SU-DAE rename always the textures and it's boring to reasign the materials again, so FBX runs better.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: Michael on September 12, 2011, 08:34:41 am
We use FormZ, currently 6.7.2, for set-design and occasional archviz. It´s a flexible and rather speedy modeler. Export to Lumion is 3ds, since Lumion does not read FormZ's Collada files. There is an open beta for FormZ V7 out right now at autodessys.com, in case anyone is interested.
We do use Revit as well, but have no Max-license for the conversion. Revit (DWG) > FormZ (3ds) > Lumion works but takes too much time. Therefore +1 for the Revit plugin.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: RAD on September 12, 2011, 08:59:57 am
i used form-z 14/15yrs ago  |:(

Remember when Sketch-up was developed by @Last?  ;) by those radical people in Boulder, Colorado before being GOOGLEDup

Thanks for the heads-up for the beta testing for Form-Z.   
Is it better?  Any parametric modeling tools?
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Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: VETS3D on September 12, 2011, 10:35:00 am
We use 3DS Max for all our modelling, use the opencollada exporter to get into Lumion. Same workflow as quest so no changes needed. We also use adobe production studio software afterwards plus, depending on the target, frameserved into other apps (I still use tmpegenc...if it's not broke and all....)
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: Morten on September 12, 2011, 02:27:37 pm
Hey Michel , i cant find the arch-viz website , do you have a link please ?

He probably meant to say that they use FormZ for set design and architectural visualisations.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: Michael on September 12, 2011, 09:31:34 pm
i used form-z 14/15yrs ago  |:(

Remember when Sketch-up was developed by @Last?  ;) by those radical people in Boulder, Colorado before being GOOGLEDup

Thanks for the heads-up for the beta testing for Form-Z.   
Is it better?  Any parametric modeling tools?
14 years ago, that´s about when I started with FormZ. Yet, even if you were absent from the program for that duration you might still feel at home with the current interface. There is additional functionality of course, parametric modeling as well. V7 is the first significant overhaul in ages. The Beta looks quite sketchupy. Wonder what a fine and freely available modeler we would have if Google had opted buying Autodessys instead. Anyway, FormZ's little community seems alive and support is incredibly good.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: RAD on September 13, 2011, 02:18:41 am
Michael, You are old school then too!    ;)
After working with all the software that's been out there over that amount of time is there any software you can't sit down with and just pick it up now....  The threads that run through modeling/visualization software are often cut from the same cloth.

I will check it out.  I know one of the folks who is helping the form-z development team.

I will pick his brain the next time I get to sit down with him.

Have you messed with the newest version of Rhino3D?   
Toss in some Grasshopper to make it interesting.
MMM - fun one.

 
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: Michael on September 13, 2011, 08:26:13 am
He probably meant to say that they use FormZ for set design and architectural visualisations.
That's right. Perhaps this abbreviation can be misunderstood, but English is not my first language.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: Michael on September 13, 2011, 09:02:33 am
Michael, You are old school then too!    ;)
After working with all the software that's been out there over that amount of time is there any software you can't sit down with and just pick it up now....  The threads that run through modeling/visualization software are often cut from the same cloth.

I will check it out.  I know one of the folks who is helping the form-z development team.

I will pick his brain the next time I get to sit down with him.

Have you messed with the newest version of Rhino3D?   
Toss in some Grasshopper to make it interesting.
MMM - fun one.
Old-school we are indeed it seems, especially thinking about my first 3D model. May I ask what was yours? Mine took days to shade in Giga-Cad, but the result looked almost magic and smelled like future. 3D-romanticism aside, I do believe there is at least one suite you can't easily pick up, one that's good for a lot of  |:( - Blender. It's an outstanding free piece of software nonetheless.
Rhino is not part of my workflow. Last time I used it was for my thesis. Funnily I modeled something that simulates what Grasshopper now does years later, a kind of rule-based procedural structure. Wish I had more time to tinker with Rhino and the like.
Please send my regards to the FormZ developer in case you happen to meet him. Must be lovely being able to chat with one of those good guys.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: blendman on September 13, 2011, 10:29:56 am
I use open source Blender, which remains for me one of the most higly underrated pieces of 3d modelling, animation and compositing software out there - in some areas leaps and bounds from the proprietary software.  it has a huge range of import/export plugins.

http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/ (http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/)

With a massive user group that has significantly changed the previous awkward interface, and now with fantastic new features, Blender is just going to more and more used.

Should Lumion be threatened by Blender?  I doubt it. One of the great advanatages of Lumion is the speed to put a 3D animation together, and Blender won't be aiming to do that - not its purpose.

But the other 3D modelling and animation software will see this being more and more used in small and large design studios. I'm sure they are nervous about it's popularity and maturing growth!

 
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: Remko on September 13, 2011, 12:08:14 pm
Blender is extremely versatile for a free tool but I don't think it's the easiest tool to use. If you do not need curvy surfaces you could use Sketchup because that's really easy and free too.
Title: Re: Software used next to Lumion
Post by: blendman on September 13, 2011, 12:13:25 pm
Hi Remko,

I agree, it isn't the easiest to tool to use, but with practise it is remarkable how quickly you can use its many features to do almost anything Sketchup does.  One of the problems for many newies is crossing the first line - getting proficient. 

Once a user of Blender passes this point, they begin to see the power of it's many features, including shortcut 'hot' keys for almost any command, including rotation, and navigation etc.

Best regards,