Topic: The Pirated Lumion ??

[lum1on]

What disadvantages brings Lumion pirated using ?
I want to buy LUMION Ultimate package, but reading through the forum and see that there are many users without a license. Who protects me from filibuster users ?
What protective measures are available to your staff by pirates and pirate user of numerous circulating in your forum?
Christmas is coming will have Ultimate paktes discount?
Thank you Lumion.

[Gga_Mars]

Pirate don't pay that is the only advantage !

Lumion is always changing... with frequently update,there is a forum part for helping licensed users...
Being honest also avoid to spend time downloading pirate version full of virus and trojan... it is not serious when you are the boss...
would you like that people asking themselves if there are any interest paying your job instead of robbing you  

[Morten]

What disadvantages brings Lumion pirated using ?

Piracy is a moral issue in my opinion. The fundamental question is whether you want to support the future of Lumion or not.

Using a pirated version of Lumion instead of paying for it has a direct impact on the future of Lumion. Most of the money that licensed users are paying for Lumion goes toward the development of new features and adding more assets. So when people choose to use a pirated version of Lumion instead of paying for it, the net result is that we have access to fewer resources to reinvest in Lumion. And the fewer resources we have, the faster each of us in the company have to work to keep development on track.

Christmas is coming will have Ultimate paktes discount?

I don't know.

I want to buy LUMION Ultimate package, but reading through the forum and see that there are many users without a license. Who protects me from filibuster users ?

Since Lumion Free was made available the forum membership count has gone from about 3000 members to 11724 (as of today). Lumion Free users do not have icons, and the forum settings also give licensed users the option not to display their icons. In other words, based on the information that is displayed in the forum, you can't tell if a user is using a pirated version of Lumion or not.

[Morten]

i thought the whole point of the ACTIVATE DE-ACTIVATE concept , was to prevent all this ?.

Unfortunately, anything that consists of 1s and 0s on a harddrive and is desirable for enough people can be cracked and/or copied.

At the end of the day, we rely entirely on those of you who are honest and who believe in supporting the development of Lumion by buying a license.

[MWLF]

At the end of the day, we rely entirely on those of you who are honest and who believe in supporting the development of Lumion by buying a license.

Absolutely!
Of all the software I've come across for doing architectural presentation, Lumion is by far worth it's price. Plus we get awesome support (Thanks to Morten & Remko ) & updates to our libraries, etc. (most other companies charge for certain updates)

If you pirate, you clearly don't value what you do all that much if you're willing to rip off someone else.

cliché as it may sound, the wheel turns...

I'm sure someone will rip them off too  

[Brian Hengelsberg]

It is a shame that people don't realize how much this hurts software developers, especially on a product like Lumion which for all intents and purposes is in its infancy.  I know that people get frustrated with some of the big boys out there that get you to use the software and then gouge for pricing on future releases, but that does not mean you find a way to get what you feel you deserve which is free software.  Lumion is priced fairly, i would say a great value...find another program that can do what Lumion can do for the money...wait find another program that can do what Lumion does period...buy the software!!!

[Michael Betke]

Lumion Free users do not have icons,

THIS is definitly a buying point.

Its an old discussion. In my opinion the loss from piracy gets added to the retail price for paying clients. Its always this way. Pirating software has only advantages. Support is available in forums, new releases get out very fast and often it doesnt matter if someone waits for one month or so to get a new version via filehosting and saves his money plus maybe even undercut competitors on the market with his lower-rates if he lives in country over-seas where you can buy Lumion on self-made DVD on a market.

Its sad for paying customers but thats the game. Play it or leave it.

[Arthur]

What disadvantages brings Lumion pirated using ?

Pretty much what Morten says. If you want the software now for free, if you don't want to think about future developments and you don't have any empathy for a team of hard working people in several countries... Then be a pirate. That's why it is called piracy.

However, if you want a good tool now and in the future and if you expect people to pay for your work...

[dsmelcer1234]

Slightly change of topic. I read an article that autocad and photoshop were the two most pirated pieces of software, especially in China were something like 80% of the install base was pirated. From what I've herd, It seems like its easy for hackers to crack the security of autocad within weeks of a new release...almost too easy. Sometimes I wonder if these companies are using it as a business strategy to even further dominate their industry. For example, since of the huge pirated base, everyone knows and uses their software in the blackmarket. Why would someone try out a more economical competitor when they can get the "best leading industry software" for free so easy.  Then at some point in the future these mega software companies crack down on people illegally using their software and since everyone already knows how to use it and it would be much more difficult to get illegally they may end up buying it legally. There is already new legislation that is trying to be pushed through congress by PAC to have harsher penalties for pirating. My logic may be flawed, but it kind of makes you wonder about these mega software companies anti piracy strategies or lack thereof.

[newman]

My logic may be flawed, but it kind of makes you wonder about these mega software companies anti piracy strategies or lack thereof.

IMHO you are right. And another good strategy is to distribute licenses for students that give possibility to use programmes free without limitations. They sit on the needle and will have to use and buy this accustomed program later.

[Arthur]

My logic may be flawed, but it kind of makes you wonder about these mega software companies anti piracy strategies or lack thereof.

It's not flawed. But large companies, and I have that information from our contacts in China, have the power to put pressure on the government regarding piracy. If they think they have a huge market, while not getting paid they will start anti-piracy projects. In the end they force a large part of the commercial end users to pay. And that's what they did for a lot of well known titles.