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piper76

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Is this laptop good enough for Lumion
« on: November 27, 2016, 09:55:27 pm »
November 27, 2016, 09:55:27 pm

Re: Is this laptop good enough for Lumion
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2016, 11:24:25 pm »
November 27, 2016, 11:24:25 pm
Hi piper76

Sadly no.  The Passmark for the GTX960M is below minimum recommended Passmarks.

See the links I referred to in your other topic: Is this Laptop good enough for Lumion? Renders / Architecture.

There's enough RAM (although more is always good to have).  The SSD at 128GB is OK, but again a 256 or above is better, because Lumion data files can be large, and it does not take long to fill up a 128GB SDD.  You can however redirect those file to the 1TB harddrive, so that helps.  The CPU is OK, but would (excluding the graphics card) put it's capability only in the Scene types that can be worked on as simple to near moderately complex.

You are best to look at a laptops that have one of the new GTX 1000 series cards, or at the least a GTX 970M (for basic simple scenes) or a GTX 980M from the prior 900 series.

You get a lot less bang for the dollar from a laptop, so if mobility is not critical, then take a look also at desktop PC's.

piper76

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Re: Is this laptop good enough for Lumion
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2017, 05:40:29 pm »
January 22, 2017, 05:40:29 pm
Hi, peter. Thanks for your reply. I'm searching for more powerful laptops now. What do you think of these one's? There's something between brackets in the grafic card (N17E-G1), should I be concerned by it?

1)Processeur : Intel Core i7-6700HQ de 2.6 GHz à 3.5 GHz, (1300 euros)
Mémoire : 16 Go, Stockage : 1 To, Ecran 15.6"
Carte graphique
NVIDIA GeForce GTX1060 (N17E-G1)
Mémoire vidéo dédiée
6144 Mo

2)Processeur : Intel Core i7-6700HQ de 2.6 à 3.5 GHz, (2000 euros)
Mémoire : 16 Go, Stockage : 1 To + 256 Go SSD Ecran : 15.6"
Carte graphique
nVidia GeForce GTX1070 (N17E-G2) à mémoire vidéo GDDR5 dédiée
Mémoire vidéo dédiée
8192 Mo

Re: Is this laptop good enough for Lumion
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2017, 06:32:08 pm »
January 22, 2017, 06:32:08 pm
Hi Piper76, those laptops look good.

The one with the GTX 1070 is better than the 1060 as it has more onboard memory and is faster.

Don't worry about the text inside the parenthesis - it's the identifier for the laptop versions of the GTX 1060 and 1070.
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piper76

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Re: Is this laptop good enough for Lumion
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2017, 07:05:32 pm »
January 22, 2017, 07:05:32 pm
Thanks Morten for yout reply :)

Do you think that the 700 euros is worth it?

I'll be having:
+ 256 SSD Disk
+ GTX1070 (8GB) over 1060 (6GB)

Thanks a lot

Re: Is this laptop good enough for Lumion
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2017, 07:51:31 pm »
January 22, 2017, 07:51:31 pm
Good question. :)

Have you got the links to both laptop PCs, so we can look at the full specifications?
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Re: Is this laptop good enough for Lumion
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2017, 08:10:28 pm »
January 22, 2017, 08:10:28 pm
Thanks a lot Morten, you're helping me a lot :)

Here are the links, sorry they are in French but I think they're quite easy to understand.

1) 1300 euros / GTX  1060
http://www.fnac.com/PC-Portable-Asus-ROG-G502VM-FY071T-15-6/a10025554/w-4?omnsearchpos=8

2) 2000 euros / GTX 1070 + 256 SSD
http://www.fnac.com/PC-Portable-Asus-ROG-G502VS-FY090T-Gaming-15-6/a10025596/w-4?omnsearchpos=10

3) 1500 euros / GTX 1070 + 128 SSB (but 8GB of RAM :( )
http://www.fnac.com/PC-Portable-Asus-ROG-G502VS-FY091T-Gaming-15-6/a10025595/w-4?omnsearchpos=5


Re: Is this laptop good enough for Lumion
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2017, 09:17:55 pm »
January 22, 2017, 09:17:55 pm
Hi piper76

I am not able to advise on
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Do you think that the 700 euros is worth it?
  You would need to consider the benefit you get for your business against the extra cost.

What I can say though is that if you consider the performance gain and extra 2GB of graphics memory that is in the GTX 1070 compared to the GTX 1060, then I would (personally) always go for the most powerful system my budget can afford.  Given that a laptop or PC has a useful life of two to three years, then the investment is something that is spread over that life. 

Also, the GTX 1070 performance will translate in to improved FPS when building Scenes, and also and most importantly, a time savings when rendering.

Also, there is a big performance difference between a GTX 1070 and a GTX 1060.  For laptops, even with the new GTX 1000 series, I would still always only go for the 1070 or preferably the 1080.  Compare of course that, against what you have been doing, what you want to use the laptop for (primary design and visualizations, or more for presentation), and against the type of Lumion Scenes you generally work with (or hope to work with).

As a brand ASUS are fine.  We tend to have more experience from users with the top performing brands of MSI and Alienware (Dell).

A read through the reviews also help to broaden your understanding of the differences for your decision.  Although of course I find sometimes with lots of reviews on the net, it can be too much information much like my reply is becoming  :D).

Lastly, in comparison of the specs: the lowest (and hence cheapest) is the Notebook Asus ROG G502VM-FY071T 15.6.  It has no SSD, is a GTX 1060 with 6GB memory, 16GB of RAM.

The next one up in price, Laptop Asus ROG G502VS-FY091T Gaming 15.6, adds a small 128GB but not really workable SSD for a Lumion environment, and for some reason less RAM at only 8GB, but with a GTX 1070.  So the difference in price is the higher performing 1070 card, but 8GB of RAM is not recommended, at minimum it should be 16GB.

The most expensive, the  Laptop Asus ROG G502VS-FY090T Gaming 15.6, has 16GB of RAM, a GTX 1070, an SSD increase to 256GB.  Thats the best specs, but there's no flash sale on that product, so you are up for extra.  Perhaps you could wait for a different sale or look elsewhere.

They all have the same CPU, so no difference there.

I would (where possible) look to increase RAM to 32GB, which the laptops support.  But the added cost might be quite a lot.  Adding extra RAM allows for more of the faster system memory to support the GTX 1070 memory once filled up.  That translates in to better performance in Lumion for Scenes that are more  complex or have more higher resolution textures.

In summary, go for a GTX 1070.  Perhaps look elsewhere for a better deal.

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