Author Topic: How to get the pro features?  (Read 9963 times)

thierry tutin

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2012, 09:33:25 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:33:25 pm
Lumion Team, I don't understand your strategy
or you apply the harsh laws of marketing
you give the free update 2.2 with a lot of new features & improvements simply amazing and a pro version very expensive with a little content
Maybe a good reason to announce a new product, but little hope that users buy this version because the content is in fact very light
and the buzz is created

Lars

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2012, 09:36:30 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:36:30 pm
Well you can also go Pro at 3.0 at which time we will try to have a good offer.

Thanks for you answers Ferry, we will see later this year if the upgrade serves our needs. At the moment Pro version isn't justifiable for us. No must have features for us.
At this time we're very happy with our new Lumion2 Ultimate (new user icon coming?) and with all the additions to the content libraries! great work!

Ming Architect

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2012, 09:46:23 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:46:23 pm
So when I want to upgrade my now Lumion2 (ultimate) later this year to Lumion3 I will loose content I now have? Is that correct?
According to the specification table Lumion2 500+ models and Lumion2 Pro 1500+ models.
I'm confused  ???

Then, Lumion should considered about including these content to normal Lumion 3? So normal Lumion 3 basically got Lumion 2 Ultimate content? (Sound like ADesk subscription now, for this release which change product line)

IMHO there're still a lot of time before Lumion 3 is out, and maybe there're a lot of area about content that can be improved. I means it's possible that Lumion 3 Pro will have HQ contents upgrade/ new HQ contents that superior than Lumion 2  ;)

Maybe Lumion / Lumion Pro can even have the same content, but pro got superior HQ /customizable contents included. When nomal content come in pro, it stay to be nomal quality content. But when Pro content go to normal Lumion, it become normal quality. Something like xRef, dummy.

I think having different content sets between version would be problematic when a firm want to buy many copies/versions for collaborations, to a degrees. Maybe 500 and 1,500 is too different and quite hard to manage, remember (or there need to be check/report tool or some sign in Lumion Pro that those componets not available for normal version, which can toggle on/off). Of course, not all license will need to be pro, right? Need to figure out when our firm actually use it.

Michael

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2012, 09:57:45 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:57:45 pm
To answer your questions:

....

We already got a lot of Pro upgrades just in a few hours so apparently we didn't completely miss the correct approach.

You all know our updates are really valuable and you get a lot of software for your money.

It is our intent to keep this happening.

At Lumion 2.3 we already have some awesome features planned.


Very well, and good for everyone you are already generating revenue with Pro, as this quite possibly secures further development of a package earning us money. I just hope you hear those many critical voices, of a sample much larger than your 11 individuals beta group, calling for consistency. It may sound strange, but in our case it would be that much easier to hand over 100+ bucks per seat and month for up to date software, than having to deal every few months with cost vs. use evaluations related to new features, seeing if we can sell new functionality or not. I am all in favor of "Test and Implement" in development processes, just not in client relations  ;) It seems some of us feel just as "tested" by your ways of releasing Pro as tempted.

jordan230

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2012, 09:57:53 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:57:53 pm
I agree with Lars, Lumion 2.2 ultimate is amazing... lets see next year with 3.0 if we need to upgrade to pro, because right now, in my opinion, the Pro version does not blow my mind like it did the first time i saw lumion 1, it needs more features... anyway great work with this software and I hope this latest upgrade and cost chaos gets resolve in favor of both Lumion company and us the clients.

darbo

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2012, 07:27:42 am »
May 10, 2012, 07:27:42 am
I am super-confused by the email upgrade offer that was sent out. If I upgrade to Pro for the introductory price of 500 euro, am I going to have to pay another 750 to upgrade from Lumion 2 pro to Lumion 3 pro at the end of the year? Is it less expensive to just stick with Ultimate 2.2 until Lumion pro 3 is released and upgrade to pro at that time?

Like others, I find the pricing structure that's being set for Lumion breathtakingly high and out of touch with the software's feature-set.

As shocking as the new pricing structure is, I feel the Lumion team is doing a poor job of helping their customers plan out their software spending budgets. Like I mentioned, the emails sent and the information on this site do not clearly articulate the full cost options for upgrading from Lumion Ultimate 2 to Lumion Pro 3. Will it be cheaper to jump in on Pro 2.2 now (for 500 euros) or will that be more expensive than staying with Ulimate until Pro 3 is released? I can't find that information anywhere. All I know fromthe email is that I can upgrade from Ulimate 2.2 to Pro 2.2 for 500 euro. That is insufficient/incomplete information!

I sincerely hope that Lumion will take a more sensitive customer-friendly approach in the near future.

The above said, I also want to express my satisfaction with the Lumion product: It works, it's stable, it's reliable, and it produces beautiful work. I wish I could say all those things about 3ds Max. I can count on Max to crash and I can count on Lumion not to. That is amazing and is of great worth.

RAD

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2012, 07:43:25 am »
May 10, 2012, 07:43:25 am
I think pro you have to ask yourself. 
Who is working in Lumion?

10 different people need to work in it?  At one time?  100 students need to use 10 computers in a lab with Lumion?  Swapping huge model chunks back and forth?  Go Pro.  Step back and think about the uses.  How you use it in workflow.  Take it with you to another computer.  Game changer I think.  An expansion to allow use in new bigger markets.

Just you and your one computer.  Go Ultimate.

Pro makes sense for big companies, municipalities, universities, etc.  Groups/People that need to be able to save the file and take it with them.  If i understand what Pro is about.  Costs more because of the target.  I can understand that.  Seems smart to me.

ryste3d

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2012, 10:26:00 am »
May 10, 2012, 10:26:00 am
My expense as a Basic User,

Basic  EUR 799
Plug-in EUR 150
Upgrade to 2.2 EUR 150 (Normal Ultimate price EUR 1500)
PRO EUR 500

Total EUR 1749

Almost the same as Ultimate cost a few days ago, and a big saving compare to new customers.

So if I just look at it as a upgrade from Lumion 2 Ultimate to Lumion 3 PRO (call it what ever you want) it is for me an upgrade price EUR 249 (1749 minus 1500)

It is therfor only fair and reasonable Ultimate users who bought in at EUR 1500 should only pay EUR 250 to go Pro

Did this make any sense?


Did this make any sense?

Ming Architect

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2012, 11:02:55 am »
May 10, 2012, 11:02:55 am
My expense as a Basic User,

Basic  EUR 799
Plug-in EUR 150
Upgrade to 2.2 EUR 150 (Normal Ultimate price EUR 1500)
PRO EUR 500

Total EUR 1749

Almost the same as Ultimate cost a few days ago, and a big saving compare to new customers.

So if I just look at it as a upgrade from Lumion 2 to Lumion 3 (call it what ever you want) it is for me an upgrade price EUR 249 (1749 minus 1500)

It is therfor only fair and reasonable Ultimate users who bought in at EUR 1500 should only pay EUR 250 to go Pro

Did this make any sense?


Did this make any sense?


I think that's good option for upgrade. To me, it's not necessary that any of my purchased product retain the same cost for long. It's like buy and selling a car, I know next year its value decresed. Just make use it ASAP and make a good ROI.

That's quite a special gift, you and prior basic customers get very good deal!
Want to sell me basic license ?
I wish we have make decision month ago.

Too bad, my company come late in game. 10+ old time 799 EUR basic license should be nice :-D
Someone have to hunt a lot of those basic license and take advantage LOL.

thierry tutin

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2012, 12:20:04 pm »
May 10, 2012, 12:20:04 pm
My expense as a Basic User,

Basic  EUR 799
Plug-in EUR 150
Upgrade to 2.2 EUR 150 (Normal Ultimate price EUR 1500)
PRO EUR 500

Total EUR 1749

Almost the same as Ultimate cost a few days ago, and a big saving compare to new customers.

So if I just look at it as a upgrade from Lumion 2 Ultimate to Lumion 3 PRO (call it what ever you want) it is for me an upgrade price EUR 249 (1749 minus 1500)

It is therfor only fair and reasonable Ultimate users who bought in at EUR 1500 should only pay EUR 250 to go Pro

Did this make any sense?


Did this make any sense?


You're right Ryste3D and it's exactly the prize i could payed  ::)

Frank

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #40 on: May 10, 2012, 01:15:44 pm »
May 10, 2012, 01:15:44 pm
It is therfor only fair and reasonable Ultimate users who bought in at EUR 1500 should only pay EUR 250 to go Pro
Hi ryste3d,
how much did you pay? 250 or 500?
Regards,
Frank

ryste3d

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2012, 01:39:41 pm »
May 10, 2012, 01:39:41 pm
I pay 500 but compared to a early Ultimate buyer I have payed 250 less O+

Frank

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2012, 02:08:23 pm »
May 10, 2012, 02:08:23 pm
I pay 500 but compared to a early Ultimate buyer I have payed 250 less O+
Thats right....  :'( |:( :'( :'( :'(

byzantium1200

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2012, 02:15:38 pm »
May 10, 2012, 02:15:38 pm
Can you email Arthur and ask for that?

Still no answer, you have the chance of getting 500 Euros with one mail.

Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2012, 02:17:33 pm »
May 10, 2012, 02:17:33 pm
Hi, I had to extinguish a couple of small fires...

You will get your answer shortly.