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Truls

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2012, 05:24:01 pm »
May 09, 2012, 05:24:01 pm
http://lumion3d.com/lumion-update-2-2/

should cover video, pictures and info. :)

Michael

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2012, 06:49:09 pm »
May 09, 2012, 06:49:09 pm
For us this is a mixed-bag situation. The 2.2. update is definitely great, but that limited time offer to upgrade to Pro not really. It adds funcitionality we might need in future projects (archviz and set-design, Revit and FormZ to Lumion mostly) but not quite now. Hence planning expenses for Lumion is tricky. Ultimate will be phased out once 3 is released, and we don't know how much an intermediate update from Ultimate to pro ist going to cost after June 1st, or what the difference between upgrading from Pro and Ultimate to 3 are going to cost. It looks like it will be more from Ultimate, but who knows, and there may come other offers like that recent upgrade from Basic to Ultimate. I think this leaves a lot of room for speculation as regards future update policies by Act3D, and that's not something overly desireable when managing budgets. Particularly when people thought they were set with 2 Ultimate until 3 arrives.
I guess us users are going to vote with our purses, and I hope the vote turns out well for both ends of the deal. Personally I think 3 grand for Pro is steep, like in case we need another seat, but on the other hand there is no real competition. Act3D seems to be very well aware of that.

byzantium1200

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2012, 07:05:51 pm »
May 09, 2012, 07:05:51 pm
You got me with 25 fps but what will happen if I change my mind end of this year and decide to continue with Luminon 3 instead of Lumion Pro 3. Will this be possible? And if I go Pro will I be able to continue using 2.2 and 1.0?

Ferry

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2012, 07:50:17 pm »
May 09, 2012, 07:50:17 pm
To answer your questions:

We plan a reduced upgrade price for Pro so no big surprises at the end of the year. Probably 750,- euro maybe less.

If you don't upgrade now the new upgrade price after 1 june will be 750 to go Pro instead of the 500 euro now.

Yes you can go to Lumion normal at 3.0 BUT remember it only has 1/3 of the content. So you might get the new features of 3.0 you might loose some content to use.

Yes we know there is little alternative to Lumion and we and the beta group figured it is not a good combination to be really good in a segment and then still be the cheapest.

We already got a lot of Pro upgrades just in a few hours so apparently we didn't completely miss the correct approach.

You all know our updates are really valuable and you get a lot of software for your money.

It is our intent to keep this happening.

At Lumion 2.3 we already have some awesome features planned.

richardgronberg

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2012, 08:01:11 pm »
May 09, 2012, 08:01:11 pm
First, congrats on yet another nice update.
That said, still I have to say that it is extremely dissapointing and surprising way of dealing with customers. You launch a product called Ultimate, which in my mind sounds like it should be the ultimate version. We bought the software just a few months ago and already the Ultimate version is...hmm..not so Ultimate.

I hope Lumion is not getting to over confident with their product and customers.
What to expect now..A Lumion Super Ultimate Pro in 6 months with great new features..if we pay yet another 500 EUR??

byzantium1200

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2012, 08:39:28 pm »
May 09, 2012, 08:39:28 pm
There are still some fetaures of Lumion 1 that are better than Lumion 2, such as Ocean wetting the rocks and better sea glitter. If you can confirm that I will be able to continue using Lumion 1 with my old (or new) license I will go Pro.

Michael Betke

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2012, 08:54:45 pm »
May 09, 2012, 08:54:45 pm
Im my opinion 750€ for a yearly upgrade is really to much.

Even my 3dsmax subscription is not that expensive.

If I do a rough calculation all this stuff really sums up for my business.
3dsmax 650€ + 750€ lumion + 100€ for other licenses. A lot of money only to stay up to date once a year. Not even included some hardware or new software.
And I do a small business. Not to imagine what this would costs for other studios.
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Lars

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2012, 08:56:37 pm »
May 09, 2012, 08:56:37 pm


Yes you can go to Lumion normal at 3.0 BUT remember it only has 1/3 of the content. So you might get the new features of 3.0 you might loose some content to use.



So when I want to upgrade my now Lumion2 (ultimate) later this year to Lumion3 I will loose content I now have? Is that correct?
According to the specification table Lumion2 500+ models and Lumion2 Pro 1500+ models.
I'm confused  ???

jordan230

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2012, 09:00:04 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:00:04 pm
So when I want to upgrade my now Lumion2 (ultimate) later this year to Lumion3 I will loose content I now have? Is that correct?
According to the specification table Lumion2 500+ models and Lumion2 Pro 1500+ models.
I'm confused  ???

I am confused too.. That doesnt make any sense..loosing content??yiakss

Ferry

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2012, 09:04:46 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:04:46 pm
Well you can also go Pro at 3.0 at which time we will try to have a good offer.

As I said we didn't decide yes what the price will be exactly. We will monitor closely what customers expect. But we will also make sure 3.0 will be worth every euro.

Again nobody has to upgrade you can make up your mind yourself if we deliver enough content and feature for you to justify this.

We added 227 models in Lumion 2.2 for all users. I would like to know what other software gives so much high quality content for free.

byzantium1200

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2012, 09:07:30 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:07:30 pm
Well you can also go Pro at 3.0 at which time we will try to have a good offer.

Hi Ferry, can you answer my question above. I am waiting for an answer to upgrade.

Ferry

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2012, 09:11:04 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:11:04 pm
Can you email Arthur and ask for that?

Ming Architect

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2012, 09:18:35 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:18:35 pm
Im my opinion 750€ for a yearly upgrade is really to much.

Even my 3dsmax subscription is not that expensive.

If I do a rough calculation all this stuff really sums up for my business.
3dsmax 650€ + 750€ lumion + 100€ for other licenses. A lot of money only to stay up to date once a year. Not even included some hardware or new software.
And I do a small business. Not to imagine what this would costs for other studios.

I agreed, but we maybe right or wrong. We all need to rethink about our ways to make money. IMHO the key is, how could the new feature able to created my new services/products or lessen the working hours and workflow:

1.) Export to scene viewer for real-time 3D presentations - creating new services for us, of course! It may be very interesting for those land developers. We can present many schematic designs and compare in real-time. Some one with real creative can even sell/distribute famous virtual buildings or whatever he can imagine to mass now!

2.) Output for compositing purposes - This will change the whole animation quality for sure, this is huge!!!!

3.) New Movie effects - potential to getting everything done without post-processing for tight deadline.

And I think these pro feature can payback for its cost/subscription in just a few projects. And less V-RAY is possible  :-D
Some people in our firm is queing to re-evaluated this new Lumion ;)

And thanks Lumion for this very brave decision!
It's a good sign that Lumion didn't just happy with old ultimate features.
And the policy about fast development, let's keep release exciting things to the industry!

byzantium1200

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2012, 09:18:58 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:18:58 pm
Can you email Arthur and ask for that?

will do.

Michael Betke

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Re: How to get the pro features?
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2012, 09:22:47 pm »
May 09, 2012, 09:22:47 pm
Yes the features are good no doupt. All I say is that its a lot of money. Especially the ADesk subscription policy makes it neccesary to keep up to date or stay on one version for years.

I think at some point Lumion will not be able to pick up lots of new features with every release which justify a upgrade. But at the moment I like it and gives me a good ROI. :)
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