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BABE™

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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2011, 10:23:58 am »
November 25, 2011, 10:23:58 am
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ramdy

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Exe Publishing request
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2011, 11:58:56 am »
November 25, 2011, 11:58:56 am
Support from Act3d, where before Lumion was great, today it doesn't exist, we get no clear response and even bug reports (taking users hours to isolate and post) aren't take in count. For the new Quest3d release, new features are mostly those importable from Lumion... There is a very ilustrative post at Q3d forum about what some users think it is happening:

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Act3d is the owner of Quest3d which is a cars factory.
2,5 years ago Act3d decides opening a new factory: Lumion, which is a motorcycles factory.

The cars factory is untouched for 2,5 years giving their cars customer nothing, instead, all the efforts go to the motorcycles factory. Today, Act3d has a cool motorcycles factory and they created a lot of accesories for it. Even an award contest for 10.000$ for their motorcycles customers. (no award contest for their cars customers )

Today, Act3d is upgrading their cars factory where they want to set the car plenty of motorcycle accesories, those which could be more or less in the car. Some things will fix and others... well, there they are. The problem is that the car factory needs to be competitive with others, and the new car model starts to seem a sidecar!
Link:http://quest3d.com/forum/index.php?topic=70777.15

On the other hand, what make Quest3d users to persist is that it is really a cool and productive engine and very flexible. It has a great community which is the one providing support to new and veteran users even in matters which are not directly related to Quest3d and users themselves are expanding through add-ons the engine itself. We are expecting for Quest3d5 to see how it finally looks, sincerely, without much hope.

Gga_Mars

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2011, 02:57:28 pm »
November 25, 2011, 02:57:28 pm
Just for information :

Archicad cost (price may vary) :  First Licence ArchiCAD 15 -2500 euro (for young graduate, enterprise creation...) to 5000 euro

Then Archicad explorer (standalone software) 995 euro  ( 500 euro with reduction ).

I don't know if they sell many standalone software...

We don't need it actually (and even less at this price ).

Just to say that nothing is free ...
Amenagement Urbanisme Architecture Design

www.auad.fr

ilwedritschel

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2011, 11:16:12 pm »
November 26, 2011, 11:16:12 pm
its mein mobile lumion exe selfmade mini-itx presentation ´benchcase pc, but one software viewer it`s not so heavy

stucki

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2011, 10:16:52 am »
November 28, 2011, 10:16:52 am
sorry to bother again, but to me this is really essential.

will it be possible to have a reduced lumion version with only theatre mode and load option
( maybe with the layer functunality ) in the future of lumion.

i wouldnt mind paying for it as a plug-in or a seperate (cheap) viewer liscence.
i would even by the ultimate version for this ( if you decide to only include it with ultimate )

i really bought lumion because of the promise there will be a player in the near future.

two of our clients are waiting for this eagerly !

kind regards
stucki


stucki

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2011, 09:24:30 am »
November 29, 2011, 09:24:30 am
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RT-Visualization

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2011, 11:42:51 am »
November 29, 2011, 11:42:51 am
A solution could be to use the free version as a viewer, because your customer has to download something anyway to view the scene ( proper viewer or free Lumion ), then you could send him the scene(folder), but I'm not sure ( I don't have the licensed version ) if you can open a scene done in the licensed version with the free version...probably I read in some thread about this "problem"...

Better solution could be to use another free modified version that allows the client to fly thru the scene, change the weather condition, because the main point is to check things from different angles and to study the light condition. But it is still a bit difficult, since clients usually complain ( I remember when I was using another engine ) that they don't have real values for the light ( basically they could not put the values ) and they can't setup the sun position according to real conditions ( the same feature that Twinmotion, Artlantis and other engine have ) so, for me, it will be better to show directly ( if you can ) the project to your customer, using your laptop in front of them or via Teamview allowing them to control your pc.

The viewer is something that I always wanted and I busted Lumion's staff balls for quite a long time, but it is true that not all clients are the same and not all the clients have a powerfull pc to run Lumion properly...with Unity web player you have no problem at all, but with Lumion lots of things need to be done in order to do something like this.

Regarding deliver/let them see the project to your clients Unity is the dirty quickest solution and it works really well...all the other options ( Lumion, Twinmotion, UDK, Cryengine ) require you to install a pretty heavy thing, and you have to repeat the same operation every time you change something and your client need to do the install every time...is very complicated in the end...

Gaieus

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2011, 12:23:32 pm »
November 29, 2011, 12:23:32 pm
As fars as I know, you can open a file created in the commercial version of Lumion in the free version (or you can open a file that was made with some of the plugins that you do not have) but then you won't see the stuff created with tools that you do not have. I.e. many of the plants, maybe even waterfalls (would be funny to see what is instead) etc. So this is probably not the solution (and also the installer of Lumion is quite heavy itself).

Certainly I would also love something like this. It has been on my wishlist, too (and was also counting on it for a project)
Gai...

Brian Hengelsberg

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2011, 01:51:24 pm »
November 29, 2011, 01:51:24 pm
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I think they have answered to the best of their knowledge right now.  I am sure the program has taken paths that they have never thought of, and some initial ideas they thought would become reality have not.  There are things that i would love to see refinement in the software, and i am sure it will happen over time.  I think a stand alone EXE will be in the pipeline eventually, as most items they comment are.  I can see your concern because you promised a client abilities the software does not have at this point.  Please don't hold them responsible for your decision, as wish-lists and forum comments are informal...kinda like having a conversation during a meal.

I think we all need to take a step back now and then and realize that the Lumion team has tried to fix issues and add functionality that has been most requested.  Not any one item is "most important" as we all have our own wish-lists.  I wish you luck with your client, they might be more understanding then you feel they will be.

stucki

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2011, 02:31:26 pm »
November 29, 2011, 02:31:26 pm
sorry but for me thats not the point.

it would be really easy to deliver a reduced version of lumion for customer viewing.
"only" hide all other options and thats it. i think many of the lumion customers would love to have such a lumion viewer and it would benefit my clients a lot for sure!

the other thing i am disapointed is first promising a feature in a official forum and later on saying this couldnt be counted for real ...

i bought this software with two clients in mind that really want realtime views of there buildings.
and because of the promise in this forum i promised them it would be possible in near future.

now my options are to tell my clients this wont happen any more (which is a nogo because work has already started a few weeks ago )
or to buy quest 3D (which hasnt been supported for two years now as some other customers are posting in this forum ) and which has much poorer Quality (because of no speedtree etc.).

Besides this all it would be a lot of work to get the current project running nice in quest 3d.

and all this having in mind that it would be perfectly possible to have a viewer with so little effort, this makes me really mad ....



 

  



 

 

ramdy

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2011, 08:16:16 pm »
November 29, 2011, 08:16:16 pm
[...]or to buy quest 3D (which hasnt been supported for two years now as some other customers are posting in this forum ) and which has much poorer Quality (because of no speedtree etc.).


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Besides this all it would be a lot of work to get the current project running nice in quest 3d.
Yes, that's the price for flexibility.

stucki

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2011, 01:59:27 pm »
November 30, 2011, 01:59:27 pm
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stucki

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2011, 03:20:57 pm »
December 01, 2011, 03:20:57 pm
nobody to answer ?

Brian Hengelsberg

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2011, 04:23:39 pm »
December 01, 2011, 04:23:39 pm
I am guessing them saying it is not included in this release means you will have to wait till after 2 before you see any EXE publishing.  And if they follow the same release model, it will be a month-two before there is a SP1.  Even further still, i am guessing SP-1 will be bug fixes as they are found by the masses...and will be several months before any additional functionality is added.  Then again, i am not a Lumion team member...but this seems like a logical progression. ;)

Architectural Innovation

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Re: Exe Publishing request
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2011, 04:56:59 pm »
December 01, 2011, 04:56:59 pm
I agree with Brian and others here. I have asked about this in the past and received the same answer. "maybe in the future". i wouldn't presume to hang my hat on that to any client, for any reason. Why would anyone purchase a product for the intention of selling something that it doesn't do yet??

If a client is hell bent on having this capability, i do not think it is unreasonable for them to pay for that capability using a program that currently does this.

Recently, many insightful forum members were quick to point out that the process of showcasing a project "As an animation" is probably the best solution right now and certainly seems to be the overall intent of the creation and use of this program. With animations, you can show what is necessary in the best way that you see fit.

If you had a stand alone viewer, a client may not be able to view the project properly. They may look at it and find things seemingly wrong that don't actually exist. They may also grow frustrated because their computers are most likely not able to handle the GPU intensive load. I think for now, i would rather SHOW my client what they want to see. That is what most clients are looking for, i believe.

Anyway, I purchased Lumion to create animations and renderings in a real time environment. I am very pleased with the communication and improvements made by the Lumion staff.

Stucki, i don't think anyone means to flame you here, but at some point i think you must accept that the one specific thing that you are looking for was not "promised" to you and it doesn't seem to be the main focus of the development of Lumion.

I hope you can enjoy this product for what it DOES, and be accepting and patient for what it DOESN'T do yet. We would all like to have all of our personal favorite wishlist items met, i'm sure, but until we own and develop our own program, that will never happen. I can promise you that.

Bob
Robert A. Christman