Author Topic: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?  (Read 19329 times)

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2012, 01:41:00 pm »
August 07, 2012, 01:41:00 pm
Ok, but why with a non Gigabyte 470/480 if what I need to know is if the problem only happening to me or to someone else.
.... I just talked to the architect, I can´t do it, the work is for a competition, until september I can´t divulge the project. The delivery would have been last week, but today, I´m aware that have been postponed until next month.|:(

Nico RVArq.com

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GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2012, 02:24:29 pm »
August 07, 2012, 02:24:29 pm
I need help, I'm having problems of Glitches for 3 months with output renders in Lumion and occurs with both graphics the GTX 470 and GTX 480 with 296.10 driver, I tried updating the driver but the problem remains. From Lumion Development fail to reproduce the error and I feeling quite frustrated. I´ve noted that with 2 Stars not occurs, and with 3 Stars and without ExtraFrameEdge softens quite the inconvenience. Maybe can be the Antialising, or maybe my cards, I don´t know.
Images attached as a summary of the type of corrupt frames that are generated.
Greetings and thank you very much for the feedback. Nicolas

Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2012, 02:43:40 pm »
August 07, 2012, 02:43:40 pm
Ok, but why with a non Gigabyte 470/480 if what I need to know is if the problem only happening to me or to someone else.

I meant if someone has a 470/480 (but a non-Gigabyte version), but any card/driver combination that exhibits the problem would probably help them diagnose the problem.

If your scene/clip 8 seems to consistently generate those artifacts for you in 3-star mode, perhaps you could upload that scene in the public thread too, so that people can try rendering clip 8? Or would the architect not allow this?
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Nico RVArq.com

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Re: GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2012, 07:16:24 pm »
August 07, 2012, 07:16:24 pm
not even one, at least lie to me! :D

Zdenek Fajfrlik

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Re: GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2012, 07:48:12 pm »
August 07, 2012, 07:48:12 pm
hi, yes , it is sometimes frustrating, when a problem seems unsolvable.
but maybe we have some ideas.

1. does this happen in one model all in all?

2. if only in one, did you try to reimport? did you try to redefine all materials?

maybe moving the model a bit , just few cm, could help?

if it happens in all projects, maybe a reinstall of lumion could help?

wish you all best, btw. you really have nice results, respect!
stan

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2012, 09:59:41 pm »
August 07, 2012, 09:59:41 pm
Hi Stan, thanks, occurs with all models, big ones and little ones, and with Lumion 2.2.1 and 2.5 too.

Re: GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2012, 12:09:44 pm »
August 08, 2012, 12:09:44 pm
Some of the artifacts that Nicolás has been able to reproduce consistently appear in a particular clip (see below), but only on his 470/480 cards.

The artifacts only appear in 3-star mode and consist of a faint overlay of objects that seem to be rendered from a different perspective. On the renderings below, you can see a faint water plane which is actually located elsewhere in the scene.

Remko says that it looks like 1 of the 16 samples that each 3-star quality image consists of is being rendered from the wrong camera angle.

However, we have no clue why it only appears on Nicolás' 470/480 cards...
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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2012, 12:19:02 pm »
August 08, 2012, 12:19:02 pm
We can't reproduce the problem on several computers here with different GPU's so can you try the latest driver? I am using 296.10 and it looks like you used an older driver for the tests.

Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2012, 12:19:37 pm »
August 08, 2012, 12:19:37 pm
We can't reproduce the problem on several computers here with different GPU's so can you try the latest driver? I am using 296.10 and it looks like you used an older driver for the tests.

At home I have a 480 so I will try it there and see what happens.

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2012, 12:23:20 pm »
August 08, 2012, 12:23:20 pm
Remko, I've tested with the latest version of Driver, and also with they recommended from Gigabyte 29*.**

GeForce 301.42 Driver WHQL  301.42    22.5.2012
GeForce 296.10 Driver WHQL  296.10    13.3.2012
GeForce 295.73 Driver WHQL  295.73    21.2.2012

rapan

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Re: GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2012, 03:28:44 pm »
August 08, 2012, 03:28:44 pm
That happens also on my 460 card.
After I rendered my scene at HD for several times (making changes in the scene every time) the glitches appeared always in the same moment - while zooming.
Movie rendered at lowest res has no glitches.

But it appears also for a second or shorter while moving along the timeline (only when F9 is on) and it looks like Lumion can't handle with some effect (see attached screen)
Strange, that in movie mode the glitches appear in other moment of the clip than in rendered movie and are visible in almost every clip while the rendered movie has only 3 or 4 corrupt frames.



Anyway - after some test it seems that the Contrail effect caused the problem (at least in my case). After deleting this effect no glitches in editor and no glitches in rendered movie.

Update.
Without Contrails glitches comes once per very long time like 10 minutes or more when I left the editor untouched.
With Contrails it is permanent or randomly flickering when the timeline is set at specific moment of the clip and F9 is on.





Re: GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2012, 11:15:43 am »
August 09, 2012, 11:15:43 am
Hi rapan, if your card hasn't developed a fault, the warped polygons on your screenshot can be caused by a lack of onboard memory.

1) Do those artifacts appear in all scenes or just in this particular scene?

2) Can you render the clip above as a still image sequence, so we can have a closer look at the images with the artifacts? (Your artifacts don't seem to be subtle overlays like those on Nicolás' renderings in my post above)

3) Are you using Lumion 2.5?

4) Please run "DXdiag" in the Windows Start menu -> Click on "Save All Information", and attach the dxdiag.txt document to your next post (Click on "+ Additional Options" below the text field). This allows us to check which graphics card, Windows version and hardware you are using.
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Nico RVArq.com

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Re: GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2012, 11:32:06 am »
August 09, 2012, 11:32:06 am
Thanks Rapan.

rapan

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Re: GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2012, 01:35:00 pm »
August 09, 2012, 01:35:00 pm
No good news - today everything's fine  ???
I rendered it to still images without any problems and then again to HD mp4 also clean.
Even editor works fine today without any glitches and flickering artifacts.
Yesterday, and everytime before rendering I follow your instructions and restart Lumion.
Today I keep it open for some time and it works fine.

Answering your questions:
1. Yes, in editor it appeared in all clips. In movie only in one clip of ten.
2. As mentioned above, all renderings were clean today, so I attached frames from yesterday's video.
3. Lumion Pro 2.5
4. DXdiag attached.

Truls

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Re: GLITCHES, CORRUPT FRAMES - Someone does this happen?
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2012, 03:55:33 pm »
August 09, 2012, 03:55:33 pm
Thanks a lot so far for helping out guys.