Author Topic: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?  (Read 17147 times)

Nico RVArq.com

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Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« on: July 16, 2012, 06:48:20 pm »
July 16, 2012, 06:48:20 pm
 |:( |:( |:( |:( |:( |:( |:(

It happend in 2.2.1 and 2.5.
I have the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480, driver updated.
The last job I had many errors in the frames, no matter if I use DOF, Background Rendering or is it morning or night. It happens for no apparent reason.
Someone else, please?

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 06:55:50 pm »
July 16, 2012, 06:55:50 pm
Is there any way to check if my graphic is running at full capacity?
Know of any software in real time to check that the graph will be uninterrupted?
Sometimes I open Lumion with an empty scene and frame rate is 7 or 8 FPS, and leaves me no choice but to shut down the computer and restart.
So I open Lumion again in a new stage and works over 60/70 FPS.  :-\

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 11:51:20 am »
July 17, 2012, 11:51:20 am
thankyouthankyouthankyou. ;)

+Corrupt frames.mp4 (7273.45 KB - downloaded 0 times.) and Thankyou for download!!

Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 01:08:05 pm »
July 17, 2012, 01:08:05 pm
I sometimes also see that fps problem. That often is that for some reason the graphics card does not have enough memory left and some program is still using that memory.

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 01:20:11 pm »
July 17, 2012, 01:20:11 pm
in the capture video 0:37 you will see the interference and unfortunately happens too often.
Sometimes about 5 times per minute Lumion use.

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 06:12:50 pm »
July 17, 2012, 06:12:50 pm
10 @#¬!! fps
I can´t work like this. It´s impossible. I'm with delayed deliveries and all I do is power cycle the PC.
It happens to someone something similar?
Any idea that can go wrong?
Or how to detect the problem?

By the way, version 2.5 elevates objects like trees and furniture, even without touching the relief tool.

Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 06:59:16 pm »
July 17, 2012, 06:59:16 pm
Hi Nicolás, as I already wrote to you the last time you were reporting glitches, you really need to download and run OCCT, in order to confirm whether your 480 has developed a hardware fault:
http://www.ocbase.com/index.php/download

I've had a couple of faulty cards myself (1 ATI and 1 Nvidia), and it will drive you nuts until you start diagnosing the problem in a methodical manner.

Excerpt from my previous post:
The most serious issue is the black frames and the weird warped textures. In my experience this could potentially indicate a hardware fault, or if you're lucky, "just" a case of overheating. Your 480 GTX max thermal threshold is 105C, so if errors/glitches begin to occur at lower temperatures it means that your card is not performing as advertised, and you would be eligible for a replacement if the card was still under warranty. Please follow the instructions in the following post to test your card using the OCCT utility:
http://lumion3d.com/forum/f-a-q/how-to-avoid-driver-conflicts/

Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2012, 07:00:15 pm »
July 17, 2012, 07:00:15 pm
P.S. To answer your original question, here's a utility that will display GPU stats such as temperature, load, fan speed etc:
http://www.ozone3d.net/gpushark/

On my ATI card, the GPU load is around 24-30% while I am editing a scene, and 90%+ when I render a simple scene.

In other words, rendering movies will stress your GPU very much - much more than editing models in SketchUp or moving models around in Lumion etc. For that reason, you need to run another application that really stresses your GPU, i.e. OCCT (or even FurMark) to find out if glitches also appear in other 3D applications.

If glitches also appear in OCCT (or FurMark) and your power supply isn't causing the problem, it's time to order a new card :(

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 08:11:38 pm »
July 17, 2012, 08:11:38 pm
I'm checking everything now.
Thank you very much Morten.

Aaron

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 10:59:13 pm »
July 17, 2012, 10:59:13 pm
I still find the entire OCCT thing to be a bit biased.
It doesn't necessarily proof a card to be broken.
Nvidia cards are often pushed bordering on safe limits out of the box already.
With certain apps/games these settings can proof to be just a tad too much.

I had tons of issues with my GTX 580, it was a 'disaster GPU' for Lumion use at 1st.
If I had gone for the OCCT route, I would have needed a new GPU.
Underclocking the card by just 5% or so got rid of any issues I had.

My advice would be:

Install MSI Afterburner, take 5% of your Core/Shader and Memory clock and decrease.
Use 'apply overclocking at system startup' in a custom profile.

http://screencast.com/t/KIPX6HBV

Also adjust the GPU cooling Fan cycle.
Push it up so it cools more agressively.

If this doesn't help at all, finally underclock 10%.
This really should make the GPU run smooth as silk.
If you still experience issues:

-Open your computer
-Take out your GPU
-Go out into your street
-Start killing people with your GPU
-When the GPU is saturated with blood, throw it away
-Buy new GPU



Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 11:26:27 pm »
July 17, 2012, 11:26:27 pm
 :D :D
Thanks Amigo.
Will see. Tomorrow I will comment.

Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2012, 10:19:25 am »
July 18, 2012, 10:19:25 am
I still find the entire OCCT thing to be a bit biased.
It doesn't necessarily proof a card to be broken.

Here in the UK and in most other European countries, consumers have statutory rights when they purchase goods. The goods must be:

  • As described
  • Of satisfactory quality
  • Fit for purpose

OCCT pushes the card as far as Lumion does while rendering, so if you can get graphical glitches to appear in both OCCT and in Lumion, chances are that your card is not performing as described.

"As described refers to any advert or verbal description made by the seller.

Satisfactory quality covers minor and cosmetic defects as well as substantial problems. It also means that products must last a reasonable time. Here in the UK, that is up to 6 years!

Fit for purpose covers not only the obvious purpose of an item but any purpose you queried and were given assurances about by the trader."

Nvidia cards are often pushed bordering on safe limits out of the box already.

This is the manufacturer's fault, not yours. Your statutory rights as a consumer (at least in the EU) would make you eligible for a replacement or a refund if your card does not perform as described. In other words, the reseller should supply you with a card that operates without glitches at the described clock speeds.

Underclocking the card by just 5% or so got rid of any issues I had.

If you buy a graphics card that is advertised to perform at a certain clock speed, then you should not have to underclock your card to make it work. You're essentially getting less than you paid for :(

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2012, 10:36:08 am »
July 18, 2012, 10:36:08 am
Well, don´t work. :-\
From a Gigabyte Tecnic in Barcelona, tell me: "these drivers are causing problems to many people around the planet, Gigabyte engineers recommend putting a previous more if possible to eliminate this problem.
Could you try, if you have not already done so, any driver 29X.XX of 1 year or 2 to discard it completely"

I have the warranty, but for the tested in Barcelona, ​​with shipping and everything would be at least 2 weeks without the graphics. Before that I will prove all that comes to mind.
Greetings and thank you for getting involved.

Aaron

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2012, 11:17:52 am »
July 18, 2012, 11:17:52 am
@Morten >
Touchy subject apparently  :-D
Customer rights etc. etc.. I know...blaaaablaaablaaa.
Perhaps they do exist in the UK though...for you that would be nice :-)

@Nicolas>
I'm very sorry to hear that  |:(
Stupid stuff!
Same errors as before? (identical frames or others?)

Nico RVArq.com

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Re: Corrupt Frames, is my Card isn´t?
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2012, 11:22:59 am »
July 18, 2012, 11:22:59 am
not all random, I am now modeling in sketchup, when cutting at noon, I will to render a camera that has given me much trouble to see that result gives an old nvidia driver: 295.73 already installed. At 15:00 hours will tell. Greetings.