Author Topic: New commercial center - Capbreton  (Read 4879 times)

3dfh

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New commercial center - Capbreton
« on: September 14, 2015, 04:30:47 pm »
September 14, 2015, 04:30:47 pm
Hi everybody,
This the last project i have done, a new comercial center in capbreton, south west of France.
This is one of the biggest project i have done, and i'm almost happy of the result ;)





Model done on
3ds for the building, 20hours
Sketchup for the road/environement, 24 hours,
vegation and animation on Lumion, 16 hours
Post prod on AE, 16 hours.

Nothing really new, except the car animation, but the customer are happy with it!
Hope you like it,

Fabien
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Chuck B. Edwards

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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2015, 07:29:37 pm »
September 14, 2015, 07:29:37 pm
Fabien,

Great Job!  That is one large project and your hard work has paid off. I love the car animations (it looks like the wheels turn, people inside.... nice work!!)!!

The reflections where kind of distracting, but with only 10 refection planes, I am not sure how you could work around that (unless you can animate the reflection sphere??!!... I'm not sure if you can..I have never tried that... but my project are super small compared to this :)

Awesome Job - thanks for sharing!!

Chuck
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3dfh

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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 09:12:38 am »
September 15, 2015, 09:12:38 am
Thanks Chuck!
Yes, i have some problem with the glass reflection, but i have tried without sphere reflection, with, with an animated sphere,.... No result....
Any way, the movie was presented yesterday for a public meeting, and everybody was happy with it!

that's good to see all the pelople smiling when they watch the movie!


Hicauber fabien
www.3dfh.fr

Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2015, 10:16:36 am »
September 15, 2015, 10:16:36 am
The reflections where kind of distracting, but with only 10 refection planes, I am not sure how you could work around that (unless you can animate the reflection sphere??!!... I'm not sure if you can..

Hi Chuck, when rendering videos, the Reflection Control object is placed at the camera position at the first frame of the video. This is why the reflections in the windows are so noticable here.

Here's what you could do to improve the reflections in Fabien's video:

1) Add the Reflection Control object to the scene and place it, say 100m above the terrain. This results in generic reflections of the sky which will be far more subtle.
... or ...
2) Add an Advanced Move effect to the clip and animate the Reflection Control object, so that it follows the camera (this may still result in quite noticeable reflections).
... and/or ...
3) Add reflection planes to the most visible windows in the video via the Reflection effect.
4) Reduce the Reflectivity value of the windows.
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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2015, 10:18:55 am »
September 15, 2015, 10:18:55 am
Congratulations on completing yet another large project, Fabien :)

that's good to see all the pelople smiling when they watch the movie!

Indeed, that's what it's all about, i.e. persuading people. I hope they won't miss the forest though ;)
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3dfh

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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2015, 10:49:36 am »
September 15, 2015, 10:49:36 am
Thanks Morten,
I havee treid the animated Sphere reflection, that's the final result on this movie... I have strange reflection o some glass, but the customer are happy with it, so it's OK for me too :)

I'll try to put the sphere 100m above the terrain, just for curiosity...

Indeed, that's what it's all about, i.e. persuading people.

You're right, that's all about!  :-D
Hicauber fabien
www.3dfh.fr

Gilson Antunes

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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2015, 09:56:23 pm »
September 15, 2015, 09:56:23 pm

3dfh great job.


Congratulations  :-D
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3dfh

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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2015, 07:28:49 am »
September 16, 2015, 07:28:49 am
Thanks Gilson!
Hicauber fabien
www.3dfh.fr

BMcIsaac

Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2015, 01:18:09 pm »
September 16, 2015, 01:18:09 pm
The reflections didn't distract me but the bland materials did. It may be a style you are trying to develop but the roads, grass, sidewalks have no materials applied. There are some pretty nice materials in version 5. Why don't you use them? When you are using Sketchup for curves be sure to up the segment numbers to get smooth corners.

On the other hand overall the video is well thought out and the introduction is very professional. I can see why your customer would be very happy.

3dfh

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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2015, 04:07:50 pm »
September 16, 2015, 04:07:50 pm
Thanks Modelhead, but no material on the grass, road,...? What do you mean?
I have apply an asphalt material to the raod, a concret to the pedestrian sidewalks, 3d grass to the grass,.... i don't understand...  :-\

I know for the curve on the road, but the deadline was too short and this is one of many things i haven't got the time to change...

thanks again!  :-D
Hicauber fabien
www.3dfh.fr

camaxide

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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2015, 08:25:42 am »
September 17, 2015, 08:25:42 am
I also found the reflections taking a lot of attention, my experience is that taking out the reflection control entirely and let Lumion automate reflections based on camera movement is the best. Those reflections standing out the most I would add the reflection effect on (those you sadly only have 10 off). And if still some looks off, I would lower the reflection on far away windows that are not so important - but only if they look weird in the clip.

else, a very nice large project. I love the intro that turns into 3D flight.. will surely impress most, not expecting it to turn 'Lumion' :)

3dfh

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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2015, 09:21:38 am »
September 17, 2015, 09:21:38 am
Thanks camaxide!

I have tried a render without any reflection effect, and no sphere, but the movie is cut in different clip, and when a clip stop/start, you can see a strange "flash" on the glass, because lumion is calculating the reflection for the first image of the clip... And this "flash" was more disturbing than the "bad" reflection effect on the final movie...

Again,  i had no time to try different reflection effect on this project, the deadline was too short, but i'll look for other solution on the next project.
Hicauber fabien
www.3dfh.fr

Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 10:30:28 am »
September 17, 2015, 10:30:28 am
Hi 3dfh

.. and when a clip stop/start, you can see a strange "flash" on the glass, because lumion is calculating the reflection for the first image of the clip... And this "flash" was more disturbing than the "bad" reflection effect on the final movie...
Shouldn't be happening, else we need to see why.

Can you please send us an Export of the scene.  Upload instructions.

BMcIsaac

Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2015, 11:49:05 am »
September 17, 2015, 11:49:05 am
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no material on the grass, road,...? What do you mean?

Find some real photos with grass/road/curbs and set them beside your own. Basically you have materials but they have no texture. Your green is simply green, no roughness or depth, no grain, no random hues, no dirt, no irregularity at all. As I said, some like this style so it is a matter of taste and opinion and of course you know the audience you are selling to better than I.

camaxide

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Re: New commercial center - Capbreton
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2015, 08:13:48 am »
September 21, 2015, 08:13:48 am
Hi 3dfh
Shouldn't be happening, else we need to see why.

That should indeed not happen, I've never had flashes happening in my movies. Remember to always let the first frame render completely before you multitask Lumion, and never minimize it during render :) Also cltr+alt+delete I believe is considered 'minimizing' as it blocks all focus