Author Topic: Concrete | Wood Bathroom - (Realistic Natural Lighting?)  (Read 1438 times)

Adam AV

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Concrete | Wood Bathroom - (Realistic Natural Lighting?)
« on: February 04, 2019, 03:36:12 am »
February 04, 2019, 03:36:12 am
I've been working on a few exterior/environment projects lately and so while I had a chance I decided to take some time to do an interior scene that I modeled over the holiday break.

The image is a culmination of a few different reference images picked from the internet, with the main focus being on creating a realistic naturally lit space with accurate light diffusion. It also gave me a chance to experiment with emulating translucency and light refraction in Lumion through the leaves (hence the close up image ;) )

Some minor post production in photoshop to fix some of the image errors and colour grading. Whilst playing in photoshop I also stumbled across a neat little output that I created whilst experimenting with the render passes. Not suitable for production, but definitely a cool result artistically so I tagged that on as the last image  :-D

C&C's welcome.

Cheers,
Adam
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Eigol

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2019, 12:21:52 pm »
February 04, 2019, 12:21:52 pm
Perfect!  ;)
The realism is there, the luminous atmosphere is pleasant and realistic.
Translucidite works very well, but what I prefer is the rendering of the pot with the 2 leaves that stand out ...

Congratulation  :)

AUDD-Leo

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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2019, 05:53:13 pm »
February 04, 2019, 05:53:13 pm
 :o Wonderful !
Really realistic !
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2019, 06:45:40 pm »
February 04, 2019, 06:45:40 pm
Love it !
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Flamingo

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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2019, 07:30:52 pm »
February 04, 2019, 07:30:52 pm
Nice images,
but first, you are loosing detail in the shower, because of less light.
Second, the lamps on the ceiling are without shadows.
I know, that the fine detailed shadows are still a problem in Lumion.
Area lights should make shadows, but they do not.This is very important for realism.
I do hope that in release 10 or 11, this will be solved. Please.
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2019, 07:36:56 pm »
February 04, 2019, 07:36:56 pm
I do hope that in release 10 or 11, this will be solved. Please.

Hi F., I'd be grateful if you could please post all feedback and ideas in the dedicated Feedback & Ideas section as usual.
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Adam AV

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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2019, 10:10:31 pm »
February 04, 2019, 10:10:31 pm
Nice images,
but first, you are loosing detail in the shower, because of less light.
Second, the lamps on the ceiling are without shadows.
I know, that the fine detailed shadows are still a problem in Lumion.
Area lights should make shadows, but they do not.This is very important for realism.
I do hope that in release 10 or 11, this will be solved. Please.
F.

Thank you for the feedback!

I was on the fence about adding shadows in on the lights but I may now that I’m not the only one who notices it. Will upload another pic with this corrected and see how it looks!

As for the detail in the shower, this is something I’m ok with. The goal of producing accurate lighting is to sacrifice some of the less important parts, in order to accentuate the hero elements. Light never remains constant and will always dissipate at some point, as is the case here where the only light source is confined to a small “box” as it hits the shower partition wall and bounces around in the bath area. It isn’t logical for light to be strong in the shower since most of the light’s  bounce path is confined to a small area, and all other areas of the room will only get diffused light as it moves around a relatively dark room. I think this was the whole goal, as I see so many CGI and even edited photographs that lighten up an entire space as much as possible to see every detail.. at the expense of  all of the realism. If anything, I think given your advice, the better option would be to align the perspective a little more and crop the shower out all together.

As for your software feedback, I’m sure this is a popular request in the feedback and ideas section, and definitely something I’m on board with!  :-D

Thanks!
Adam
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Adam AV

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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2019, 10:12:44 pm »
February 04, 2019, 10:12:44 pm
Perfect!  ;)
The realism is there, the luminous atmosphere is pleasant and realistic.
Translucidite works very well, but what I prefer is the rendering of the pot with the 2 leaves that stand out ...

Congratulation  :)

Thanks, I’m glad you noticed the plants on the cabinet! I’m not sure why but I was really satisfied with how the vase and the water turned out lol

Adam
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Adam AV

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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2019, 12:09:43 am »
February 05, 2019, 12:09:43 am
An updated image with shadows corrected on the overhead lamps  :)

Thoughts?
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Flamingo

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2019, 08:54:24 am »
February 05, 2019, 08:54:24 am
Great.
Maybe you show on the inside of the shower ceiling one or several spots.
This would be also nice in reality.
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V&B

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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2019, 10:30:38 am »
February 05, 2019, 10:30:38 am
Adam, very well done! I like the light. It's convincing.
Did you used Morten's process with only natural light with Cloud effects on?

Adam AV

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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2019, 11:39:34 am »
February 05, 2019, 11:39:34 am
Adam, very well done! I like the light. It's convincing.
Did you used Morten's process with only natural light with Cloud effects on?

Thank you!

I’m afraid I may have missed Morten’s advice on that process, did you happen to  have a link to thread where it’s discussed?

A similar  technique is used here, however it’s also paired with using spotlight and area lights to help control the temperature of the light as it reflects off the different surfaces. The spotlight helps produce some more convincing lighting effects and shadows with the influence of the spotlight GI settings, and the area light helps soften the light cone edges and diffuse the overall area to give it that atmospheric “glow” as it shines through the window.

That’s kind of my “go to” process now for interiors as I learn more and more about how the spotlights and GI work and I rely on the environment light less and less  :)
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2019, 11:41:57 am »
February 05, 2019, 11:41:57 am
I’m afraid I may have missed Morten’s advice on that process, did you happen to  have a link to thread where it’s discussed?

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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2019, 12:45:52 pm »
February 05, 2019, 12:45:52 pm
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Thanks Morten  ;)

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2019, 12:55:19 pm »
February 05, 2019, 12:55:19 pm
No problem. :)
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