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Dauma

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[Resolved] System Requirements Question
« on: April 14, 2018, 04:28:36 pm »
April 14, 2018, 04:28:36 pm
Hello :)
Please understand me even though I'm weak in English.


Question 1.

I'd like to buy a new desktop for Lumion.
But I am hesitating about my graphics card a lot.

GTX 1060 GTX 1070 GTX 1080 (or 1070ti)

I don't have a large budget, so I'd like to choose either 1060 or 1070.

Usually my rendering is a detached house and Interior. It's about the same size as the picture.
(I have attached an example photo)



I read the Lumion blog and the website to help me with various computer specifications,
and I thought it would be okay to use GTX1060 6GB.

But I've overlooked the fact that movie rendering is a must.
The biggest reason why I want to do Lumion is because of movie rendering.

Isn't the performance of graphics cards more important when movie rendering?
Is it possible to movie rendering easily with GTX1060 6GB?



Question 2.

I haven't even decided on CPU yet.
I know that 4.0 + GHz or higher is better for Lumion.
I am concerned about 'k' and 'non k'

for example,
i7-7700 - 3.6~4.2GHz
i7-7700k - 4.2~4.5GHz

Of these two, is i7-7700k good for Lumion?
Because of the minimal GHz difference? (3.6~4.2 Differences Between 4.2~4.5)



Question 3.
My computer monitor has a maximum resolution of 1920 x 1080.
Is it okay to use the image rendering and movie rendering of Lumion?


I would like to ask you for advice.   :'(
Thank you. :D

Re: System Requirements Question
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2018, 04:35:37 pm »
April 14, 2018, 04:35:37 pm
Hi Dauna, welcome. Your English is perfectly fine. :)

Which version of Lumion are you currently using?
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Dauma

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Re: [Awaiting reply] System Requirements Question
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2018, 04:49:24 pm »
April 14, 2018, 04:49:24 pm
I don't have a Lumion.
(example photo are not my work)
I've known Lumion for three days.
I would like to use version 8.0 ~ 8.3.

Re: [Awaiting reply] System Requirements Question
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2018, 08:22:19 pm »
April 14, 2018, 08:22:19 pm
Thanks for the information.

We'll reply when the office re-opens on Monday.
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Re: [Awaiting reply] System Requirements Question
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2018, 09:30:37 pm »
April 14, 2018, 09:30:37 pm
OK. I got it.

In addition to question 2.

Lumion recommends 4.0 GHz.

i5 8600 -  6 Cores, 6 Threads, Base 3.1GHz, Max 4.3GHz.
i5 8600k - 6 Cores, 6 Threads, Base 3.6GHz, Max 4.3GHz.

Max GHz is 4.3 GHz but the base is low.
How is it?  :o  it is okay if Max GHz is over 4.0? Even if the bass is low?

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i5 8400 (6cores 6threads 2.8GHz~3.8GHz)
- Is it hard to movie rendering?

Re: [Awaiting reply] System Requirements Question
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2018, 09:36:17 pm »
April 14, 2018, 09:36:17 pm
Thanks for the additional question.

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Re: [Awaiting reply] System Requirements Question
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2018, 11:08:47 am »
April 16, 2018, 11:08:47 am
Hi Dauma.

I don't have a large budget, so I'd like to choose either 1060 or 1070.

If you can afford it, I would recommend a GTX 1070 then.

PassMark points:
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

GTX 1070: 11,134
GTX 1060: 8,925

See the coloured entries for graphics cards and PassMark point ranges in this article for more information:

Knowledge Base article: Which graphics card do you need?

Isn't the performance of graphics cards more important when movie rendering?

Correct, the memory and speed of the graphics card are what matters the most when rendering images/movies. The CPU is used less while rendering movies, i.e. mainly for compressing the frames of the movie.

However, the CPU is important when editing a scene. If you pair a slow CPU with a very fast graphics card, the CPU will act like a bottleneck, so that the graphics card won't be able to run as fast as if you had a fast CPU. The result will be that the socalled framerate will be lower than with a faster CPU (the framerate is how many times per second the screen in Lumion is updated while editing scenes).

For that reason, a high-end GTX card with a lot of PassMark points should ideally also be paired with a high-end CPU (i.e. over 4.0 GHz for the base and boost GHz).

Is it possible to movie rendering easily with GTX1060 6GB?

Yes, a GTX 1060 can render movies, and there is no qualitative difference between a movie rendered with a GTX 1060 and a GTX 1070. They will look exactly the same.

i7-7700 - 3.6~4.2GHz
i7-7700k - 4.2~4.5GHz

The i7-7xxx series has been replaced by i7-8xxx now.

In any case, the higher the CPU clock frequency is (measured in GHz), the less of a bottleneck the CPU will be for high-end graphics cards.

Here are our recommendations (from the blog article). As you will see, a lower CPU clock frequency is acceptable for slower graphics cards and a higher CPU clock frequency is best for faster graphics cards.

GOLD OPTION

Graphics card: GTX 1080 Ti
CPU: i7-8700K
System memory: 64 GB (3000 MHz or higher)
Power supply: Minimum 750W (80+ titanium-rated)
OS: 64-bit Windows 10 with all updates installed

SILVER OPTION

Graphics card: GTX 1070 Ti
CPU: i7-8700
System memory: 32 GB (2666 MHz or higher)
Power supply: Minimum 650W (80+ gold-rated)
OS: 64-bit Windows 10 with all updates installed

BRONZE OPTION

Graphics card: GTX 1060 (with 6 GB onboard memory)
CPU: i5-8600K
System memory: 16 GB (2133 MHz or higher)
Power supply: Minimum 550W (80+ gold-rated)
OS: 64-bit Windows 10 with all updates installed

Of these two, is i7-7700k good for Lumion?

Yes, like the i7-8700K, it's suitable for high-end graphics cards like the GTX 1080 Ti and GTX Titan Xp. However, the i7-8700k is a bit faster and has 6 cores instead of 4. Lumion does not use more than 4 cores but having extra cores will help if you are running other applications in the background.

My computer monitor has a maximum resolution of 1920 x 1080.
Is it okay to use the image rendering and movie rendering of Lumion?

Yes, that's an ideal resolution for a monitor. The more pixels a monitor has, the lower the framerate in Lumion will be while editing scenes. So a 3860x2160 monitor would require a GTX 1080 Ti or a GTX Titan Xp graphics card to ensure a decent framerate.

i5 8600 -  6 Cores, 6 Threads, Base 3.1GHz, Max 4.3GHz.
i5 8600k - 6 Cores, 6 Threads, Base 3.6GHz, Max 4.3GHz.

Max GHz is 4.3 GHz but the base is low.
How is it?  :o  it is okay if Max GHz is over 4.0? Even if the bass is low?

The lowest GHz (base GHz) is when all cores of the CPU are used. The highest GHz (boost GHz) is when all cores of the CPU are used.

The i5-8600 would probably be a small bottleneck for a GTX 1060 and a bigger bottleneck for a GTX 1070 (and faster models).

i5 8400 (6cores 6threads 2.8GHz~3.8GHz)
- Is it hard to movie rendering?

This CPU would be at the lower end for a GTX 1060 and would most likely act like a (small) bottleneck for the graphics card when editing scenes (i.e.t he framerate would be a bit lower than with a faster CPU). It would be a bigger bottleneck for a GTX 1070 (and faster models).

As mentioned earlier, the CPU speed does not have a big impact on still image/movie rendering speeds as it's mainly the graphics card that's used.

Does this answer your questions?
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Re: [Resolved] System Requirements Question
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2018, 04:30:35 pm »
April 19, 2018, 04:30:35 pm
I'm really sorry for the late reply  :'(
Something bad happened to me all of a sudden, and I was handling it.

Your answer was very helpful :D
I am surprised and delighted that you answered each question in detail.
I'm going to buy a computer soon.
Thank you very much.

[Awaiting reply] - > [resolve]  ;)

Re: [Resolved] System Requirements Question
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2018, 05:44:49 pm »
April 19, 2018, 05:44:49 pm
I'm really sorry for the late reply  :'(
Something bad happened to me all of a sudden, and I was handling it.

Oh no, I hope you're ok again. :-\

I'm going to buy a computer soon.

Good luck!

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Done. :)
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